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Fusion Engine (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG. I'm pretty sure these references are hallucinated, as besides the IGN one, none resolve (the GameSpot one resolves too, but because it's using the ID of a different article). ~ A412 talk! 16:16, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good point. Redirect to Fusion engine makes sense. MarioGom (talk) 10:44, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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4A Engine (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article appears too technical to be encyclopedic (e.g. "3,000 tasks per 30ms frame"). Despite the large Eurogamer/Digital Foundry feature, relevance appears largely related to 4A Games. IgelRM (talk) 19:21, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jerry Bowers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Regional-level NASCAR driver with no championship wins. Fails to meet WP:NMOTORSPORT or WP:WikiProject NASCAR/Standards. Citations are database entries and an obit. Nothing better found on search. — Moriwen (talk) 19:12, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pete Graham (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet WP:NMOTORSPORT or Wikipedia:WikiProject_NASCAR/Standards. Regional-level NASCAR driver with no championships. Database sources only. — Moriwen (talk) 19:01, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Jude Tanner (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Doesn't meet GNG. Indication of importance is described as winning a Tony award, among others. This person did not win a Tony award -- their company was one of about 50 companies listed as having a co-producer credit for a production which won a Tony award. TonySt (talk) 17:47, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Jeringonza (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I don't feel very strongly about this one, however it was noted in the recent RM discussion (which I closed) that this article lacks sufficient reliable sources to pass WP:GNG. Unfortunately a check of the other two wikis this is on demonstrates a lack of overall sourcing for this topic. This could be deleted, or alternatively redirected to a related topic such as Pig Latin, which seems fairly similar. On the off chance the sourcing is improved while this is listed here, we can always have another RM to discuss the spelling, as it will be relevant at that point. ASUKITE 16:13, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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VOOsport World (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG, sourced to primary sources and database entries. ~ A412 talk! 16:11, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keenan Beavis (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Second AfD -- the first one reached a Delete concensus. This began as me trying to do a cleanup of sources and to improve the article as per WP:BEFORE but the more I worked in it the more I realized it does not meet WP:N. Sources cited are mostly WP:TRADES or WP:PROMO (in some cases actual straight-up AI SEO spam articles).

Most of the articles I can find on this person appear to be the result of intensive SEO efforts rather than genuine significant coverage in independent secondary sources. The secondary sources that I've been able to find only write about him in the context of being the founder of a marketing agency. As detailed in the original AfD, the trades industry awards or "top" listings referenced in the article are not automatically noteriety claims. TonySt (talk) 16:01, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

-aldergrovestar.com
-bcbusiness.ca
-sauder.ubc.ca - A university website, can't be paid placement
-alumni.ufv.ca Alumini website, cant be paid
-bcbusiness.ca 30 under 30 This type of coverage can't be paid
-mnbc.ca Award win coverage, can't be paid

Also, the original AFD was in 2022 and the majority of sources cited are after 2022, so that result is irrelevant by now. Rubenpurer (talk) 07:03, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also, here is a new source I have Found:
Canadian SME Small Business Magazine Page 41-43 Rubenpurer (talk) 07:08, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Finding Daisy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No WP:SIGCOV that I could find so as to meet WP:NFILM. Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 15:22, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Nepal Revolutionary Students' Union (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article doesn’t cite any article neither it has online coverage. Rahmatula786 (talk) 15:04, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Bagus Ilham (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unable to find any coverage satisfying WP:BIO, although it's possible there's something in Indonesian that I'm missing. Player for a second-tier football club; sources are a database entry, a brief article mentioning a transfer, and an instagram post. — Moriwen (talk) 15:06, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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All Nepal National Independent Students Union (Sixth) (RJM group) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Single source. Neither reliable nor significant. No online coverage about this union. Rahmatula786 (talk) 15:10, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

thanks, the sources I found indeed seem to be for a similarly named but different organization. ---hroest 11:47, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Kulovića Street (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Looks to fail WP:GNG. Not seeing evidence of the street being notable, only things related to it (the siege or buildings on it). Doesn't pass WP:GEOROAD either. JackFromWisconsin (talk | contribs) 16:51, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Ashitha Revolt 1843 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG. No sources on this exist. None of the sources in use in this article support 99% of the text in this article 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 18:44, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Divine Mercy Catholic Elementary School (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable run-of-the-mill elementary school. Only independent coverage cited is a database entry; nothing beyond the school district found on search. Could reasonably redirect to Toronto Catholic District School Board. — Moriwen (talk) 18:38, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nur Shah railway station (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No reliable source covers the station, does not meet WP:GNG Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 18:38, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Guy Pagès (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No sources giving significant coverage are on the article and a search has not revealed any WP:SIGCOV in any reliable source. Boynamedsue (talk) 18:32, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Catherine Carter (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Upon search, the subject does not seem to be notable enough per WP:GNG. The current references (specifically, from the Canberra Times) seem to be WP:BLP1E, and the rest seem to be primary sources. The article also seems overly promotional, and it also seems that the article creator has a undisclosed WP:COI with the subject with their edit history. WormEater13 (talkcontribs) 17:44, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Umair (music producer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NMUSICIAN. At first glance there appears to be significant coverage but looking closer you will see that most are not bylined, are from unreliable sources, or just routine coverage or mentions. CNMall41 (talk) 17:39, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

1Munti Partylist (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The organization does not seem to be notable enough to warrant its own article as of right now. The article creator seems to have a undisclosed WP:COI with the subject, and the article seems to contain machine-generated text. If the organization wins any seats in the Philippines 2025 general election, a article about the subject could be made. But as of right now, there's just coverage about the subject and their partylist - with some passing mentions and unreliable sources, and I think it is WP:TOOSOON. There is some independent, reliable coverage - but that's only about the organization's partylist. WormEater13 (talkcontribs) 17:29, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This party did not win seats in last week's election. Howard the Duck (talk) 17:35, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
List of victims of the 2015 Tianjin explosions (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A sad event, but the victims aren't notable. Fram (talk) 17:27, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: It's a rather huge event(Compared to 911 on some occasions), and victims lists are pretty common on the article themselves, just that the article itself likely cannot fit the people. Now, I understand Wikipedia:Other stuff exists, but I would say this is about as notable as Lists of victims of the September 11 attacks. Additionally, this list sort of already exists on List of People's Armed Police personnel killed in the line of duty#2010s, and among the casualties is the former deputy chief of the TEDA zone fire brigade.
Additionally, more secondary sources will likely come soon to increase notability, this article was sort of rushed a little bit, as I originally intended for this to simply be a section in the 2015 Tianjin Explosions article. Thehistorianisaac (talk) 17:43, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I just don´t get the logic. We don´t list the victims for small accidents, as these normally don´t have an article for the event. We don´t lust the victims of truly large events (war, famine, natural disasters) as there are too many, it would be an indiscriminate list, WP:NOTMEMORIAL, take your pick... But for a small group of intermediate events we suddenly have articles to list the victims, even though they aren´t really any different from all these others. Seems completely arbitrary. Fram (talk) 18:07, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Thehistorianisaac Zanahary 17:48, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
African Wildlife Defence Force (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A third article about an organisation lead by the same person and written by the same editor, and with the same issues. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/African Ornamental Breeders Association and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nutrecul Agroforestry Project for the other two. This one is basically unsourced (neither source mentions the organisation) and I can't find any reliable sources which give significant attention to this one either. Fram (talk) 17:05, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nutrecul Agroforestry Project (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article created by the same editor as the one behind the organisation now being discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/African Ornamental Breeders Association, and this project is lead by the same person, Jean Kiala-Inkisi, as that association. And it has the same issues, it completely lacks notability. Whether the "prehistory" (sic) section is about anything notable is hard to tell, but the actual Nutrecul project has after 12 years not gotten any significant attention from reliable, independent sources it seems.[10][11] Fram (talk) 16:59, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

African Ornamental Breeders Association (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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It exists, but it lacks notability, and claims like "more than 200,000 members" are unverifiable. Very few sources even mention it[12], most of them not independent or not reliable (other wikis and so on). Their website[13] has only had a few thousand visitors (bottom of page), their organisations like the "AOBA National Evaluation Shows" and "AOBA International Championships"[14] are not mentioned anywhere[15][16]. This has all the characteristics of a one-man organisation trying to lure sponsors for the website and people willing to buy their imported poultry. It has no actual importance at all it seems. Fram (talk) 16:51, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Morris (speedcuber) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Frank Morris is just a speedcuber who was fairly active in the early 2000s and got a couple of world records on larger cubes, but aside from that he's definitely not worthy of an article. The only source that isn't his WCA page (which everyone who has competed in a speedcubing competition has) is a link to an interview he did for a radio station, which I definitely don't think makes you notable enough for a Wikipedia article. Yoshikid64 (talk) 16:50, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ben Clarke (footgolf) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable footgolf player. The article was AI-generated and included multiple hallucinated citations that have been removed. What's left doesn't support notability under WP:GNG or WP:NSPORT; references are affiliated with him (his Facebook or his talent agency), or they are from official leagues and thus also not secondary coverage. I found one instance of WP:SIGCOV in my before search (Daily Record), but the rest of the coverage I found was WP:TRIVIALMENTION. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:26, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Somerset Academy Canyons (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable school, doesnt pass WP:NSCHOOL. The article seems to be AI generated as many others by this user and half of the links are not properly functioning. Overall there isnt a single WP:RS that covers this school either in the article or on Google/Google News. hroest 16:11, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Khole Piza (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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References fail WP:SIRS so article fails WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:44, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Zimbali Coastal Forest (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I am not sure this is notable, and even if so, this is primarily AI slop that needs WP:TNTing. GoldRomean (talk) 15:40, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Barabız (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article is unclear what this is. Seems like a simple (though incomplete) translation of a foreign word, rather than an actual topic. BEFORE is not finding anything by spelling "Barabız" or "Barabus".   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 15:34, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel Allen Cohen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The only reliable source is a former Forbes contributor (both of the Forbes articles were written by the same lady). The rest are not reliable sources. (Note that Yahoo is a syndication of LatestLY, which is WP:NEWSORGINDIA). 🄻🄰 15:13, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Codava Makkada Coota (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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None of the articles are about the organization, just mentions. Mostly WP:ROTM stuff about events they participated in. (to be fair, please review this version from before I removed some WP:NEWSORGINDIA content). 🄻🄰 15:08, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kirsten Jepsen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Contested draftification, so here we are. (Why not just let it stay in draft space?) It was draftified as only relying on database sources, and was readded with no valid sources. The only sources are a database and two instances of her name appearing in lists. These are nowhere near significant coverage, cf. WP:SPORTCRIT: "All sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources". I could find no other Danish sources in a WP:BEFORE (a language I can read and speak). I'm by no means opposed to it being draftified again, but it then has to go through the AFC process, I think. Geschichte (talk) 05:27, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have added Danish language sources. Moondragon21 (talk) 14:16, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
They too just mention her name among many Geschichte (talk) 17:49, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That is because the medals were won in team events. Moondragon21 (talk) 18:03, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please see the policy excerpt above. They need individual coverage about their person. Geschichte (talk) 22:02, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The policy does not specifically cover rowing making it somewhat confusing. Compared to other pages in Category:Danish female rowers this article is better sourced so what is the standard? Moondragon21 (talk) 23:04, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The policy covers any and all sports. Regardless of sport, people need individual coverage about their person to have an article. Without that, it's not well sourced - in fact, having one reference with individual coverage about their person is the minimum standard. Geschichte (talk) 04:52, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I only translated the article believing that a medal winning world champion in rowing was notable. Moondragon21 (talk) 14:38, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No harm done, and as I said in the nomination, I am willing to move it back into draft space. Such a medalist "should" be notable, but then again, it's not our job to decide that, but rather the abundance of in-depth sources... Geschichte (talk) 07:04, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That is fine. Would AFC be preferred to using Wikipedia:CXT? Moondragon21 (talk) 19:58, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I support a move to draftspace. Moondragon21 (talk) 17:17, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Fintilect (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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All prior XfDs for this page:


Non-notable software company. Routine coverage like M&As, renaming, investments, are not enough to pass WP:CORPDEPTH. UPE history is another issue. Gheus (talk) 09:52, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete I haven't found anything outside of primary sources and routine business announcements. Many sources are "fintech" focused and I tend to view such sources with the same skepticism as crypto focused sites. I haven't found much in the way of notability for the previous iterations of the company either. The sources on the historic article don't seem to meet reliability or notability requirements either. The old page seems like a relic of a more lenient era of wikipedia. Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 21:59, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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List of world champions in WWE born outside the United States (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Seems to be original research and fancruft. BinaryBrainBug (talk) 08:34, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages because of the same reason as bundle AFD:

List of WWE male wrestlers born outside the United States (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of NJPW male wrestlers born outside Japan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of WWE female wrestlers born outside the United States (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Democratic Party of Greens (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No evidence that the topic of this page meets notability guidelines such as WP:ORG. C679 14:45, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Existing political party nominated for deletion? What is this? --ThecentreCZ (talk) 19:34, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. This party had representation in the Czech Parliament, albeit briefly. Of course it's notable, and there are a number of secondary sources on the Czech article. It just needs expansion/translation. Jdcooper (talk) 22:13, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
How do you see this as a snow keep considering the number of references is no indication of notability, plus the fact that this party has never returned any candidates at an election? C679 07:17, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Who said that someone is considering indication of notability? We keeping all parties. This is not living persons. How do you for example see this article Ondřej Štursa as notable with two links? ThecentreCZ (talk) 09:29, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Political parties are subject to WP:ORG. There is no Wikipedia policy to have a page on every political party. C679 11:24, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is not "every political party", but it had representation in the Czech parliament. And the Czech article about the same topic has plenty of sources which can be used to expand this one. Jdcooper (talk) 13:02, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment. The supposed representation in Parliament came from "two Green MPs, Olga Zubová and Věra Jakubková". In Norway at least, it is impossible to formally switch parties during a term, so if you leave your party, you become independent. If this is the case in CZ as well, then the party was not formally represented in Parliament. Geschichte (talk) 15:53, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Institute for Christian Democratic Politics (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No evidence that the topic of this page meets notability guidelines such as WP:ORG. C679 14:48, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Anton Paar (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article appears to not have any secondary sourcing, and the sources on the dewiki article, as well as on Google, are mostly routine announcements and press releases, in addition of use of the company's website. It would be helpful of more secondary sourcing be found, but I feel that this falls short of WP:NCORP. ToadetteEdit (7M articles) 14:49, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2023 German public transport strike (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A one-day event without much lasting effect, probably fails WP:GNG A1Cafel (talk) 14:12, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Expulsion of Iraqis in Kirkuk (2016) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article lacks sources and fails WP:GNG; the topic is not notable enough to warrant its own article. Also, the title is misleading as it implies that the perpetrators were not also Iraqi, which is factually incorrect. Skitash (talk) 14:04, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This article in fact does have reliable sources such as Human rights watch, amnesty international but i will add more cause of this. And what do you mean the perpatrators were also iraqi what is your evidence? It makes no sense to why iraqis would expell there own people DataNomad (talk) 14:10, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And even if the article needs a few more sources i still dont see how this is reasonable to nominate it for deletion DataNomad (talk) 14:20, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's concerning that you're reintroducing material from a previously deleted article (Deportation of Iraqis), especially when the deletion was likely due to policy issues. Repeating the same content under a new title can be seen as evading consensus. Wikipedia isn't the place for pushing personal or political narratives. R3YBOl (talk) 15:21, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: GNG is met, as best I can tell. There is SIGCOV from reliable sources, including news coverage of UN concerns published by Reuters, a variety of other news sources, and commentary produced by Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch. While the title is bad—this should be more generally entitled something like Kirkuk expulsions (2016)—that alone is insufficient to support a deletion. I don't see a basis to believe that this article should be deleted for pushing personal or political narratives, either, as no evidence that it is doing so has been raised. ~ Pbritti (talk) 18:00, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Keep: this article uses multiple reliable sources and keeps a neutral point and doesnt seem to have any problems at all. 185.244.152.248 (talk) 18:17, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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KSK Energy Ventures (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. Furthermore, the WP:BEFORE check has failed. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 07:55, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Portrait (Mariah Carey song) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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NN song. Have changed this to a redirect to the album but edit is being reverted. Seeking consensus. TheLongTone (talk) 13:46, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep: It has charted on some music charts. Also its content can't be ignored.
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One week on a minor chart. What do you mean by'its content cannot be ignored'??TheLongTone (talk) 14:21, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
15×96mm (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Lack of notability. I changed this to a redirect to 20×82mm#Usage but was reverted. Seeking consensus. TheLongTone (talk) 13:44, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose, the redirect is incorrect as it doesnt cover this cartridge. This cartridge was in use throughout WW2 but has too much data to be squeezed into the article MG 151 cannon. There is stuff to write about its history given enough time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blockhaj (talkcontribs)
Does it matter? The article is not hurting Wikipedia in its current state, it is just a list of cartridges and their data. This is a matter of deletionism and inclusionism in Wikipedia. Blockhaj (talk) 17:51, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect The whole article seems to be copied and pasted from the 316 page manual and there is no secondary sources to prove its actually notable. Its seems to be a development prototype, so wasn't even in anger. So why is on here in the direct. Redirecting with a small para of 2 lines in the destination article would be ideal. scope_creepTalk 18:53, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
: Note that it wasn't just a development prototype - it did see service, in the MG-151/15 (which was mainly used in early Bf-109Fs- Williams and Gustin's Flying Guns: World War II notes that the 15 mm gun "may have been more widely used than is generally though".Nigel Ish (talk) 19:24, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I see material was removed, but I don't see any citations (at all)... I guess that warranted its removal. Fortuna, imperatrix 19:23, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Battle of Thurii (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Found while browsing Wikipedia:Database reports/Forgotten articles. Cannot find any books or sources that mention this supposed battle that predate the creation of this article in 2007. The only "citations" this article has are incomplete citations which just say a book title and nothing else. No authors, no year of publishing, no ISBN, nothing. And the "source" titles are extremely vague, like "History of Rome" or "Antiquity".

(Note: I know there were actual battles between Tarantos and ancient Rome for control of the area, but I cannot find evidence that "Battle of Thurii" was one of those battles, or that there was any "naval battle" for the region.) ApexParagon (talk) 00:12, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: The editor who created this stub seems to have been inactive on Wikipedia since 2013, but nothing on his/her talk page suggests that it was created as a hoax (I was looking for warnings of various sorts). Given that the part about Thurii is only a single sentence, while the rest concerns Rome's conflict with Tarentum, I wonder if perhaps the editor was confused about the sequence of events—perhaps including the dates. My first thought was to check the history of the cities in the Dictionary of Greek and Roman Geography, and see if it mentioned something similar to a battle at this time. Under "Tarentum", at p. 1097, if you scroll down the first column there's a description of Rome and Tarentum coming into conflict over Thurii, though this is supposed to have occurred in 302 BC, while the Tarentines didn't call in Pyrrhus until 281, when the Romans declared war on Tarentum.
This sounds like what the article creator had in mind, but unless the description is in error—which is possible, though it's hard to see "302" as a typo for "282" under "Tarentum"—the editor might have been confused by a less precise description such as the corresponding passage under "Thurii", top of the first column on p. 1193. I believe both are citing Appian's Samnite Wars, though additional sources are cited in "Tarentum" that might also shed light on this. I agree that the existing citations for this article are not very helpful, but thankfully knowing what sources describe the conflicts may help sort out whether there's enough here to salvage (at the very least, it can probably be merged under Thurii, Tarentum, and Pyrrhus, which would technically not be a deletion).
I expect Broughton can also be cited. I did not resort to PW, because wading through pages of densely-annotated German that I have to translate by retyping passages that I think are relevant on Google can be quite time-consuming! Not sure where else I would look besides the Greek and Roman authors cited in the DGRG, but perhaps someone else has some ideas on that. In any case, I think we can conclude that the article is not a hoax, but it might not be focused on its purported subject—Thurii—and might be better off mentioned in other articles than as a stand-alone one. P Aculeius (talk) 14:28, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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VPR Mining Infra Private Ltd (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. Furthermore, the WP:BEFORE check has failed. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 08:00, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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SQL Star (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. Furthermore, the WP:BEFORE check has failed and not a WP:LISTED company, as it claims on the page. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 07:59, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Aparna Enterprises (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. Furthermore, the WP:BEFORE check has failed. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 07:53, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Tom Wall (guitarist) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Musician from non-notable band. Passing mentions in local press as a part of his band. Fails WP:MUSICBIO. Rift (talk) 08:23, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Chromebook challenge (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:NOTNEWS Launchballer 09:58, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lanch, I'm pretty sure you're supposed to give a reason in your nomination. Ameright?
Also, comitting arson for Tiktok views would still probably be a talking point (but more minor) in 7 months. Thegoofhere (talk) 11:40, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And it still is, as of now. Thegoofhere (talk) 22:53, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: No evidence this flash in the pan social media fad passes WP:NEVENT; we would need to see WP:SUSTAINED coverage. And WP:NOTNEWS, while not effusive, is a valid deletion rationale since WP:NOT is the second part of the two-part WP:GNG test. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:25, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Disagree buddy: There is evidence that it passes WP:NEVENT. I quote it for ya.
    "Events are also very likely to be notable if they have widespread (national or international) impact"
    It has national impact, many American schools have put out messages stating that students must stop doing the trend. Sources from the article show that incidents of the trend have recorded in 15 US states. Plus, a student was charged for arson whilst participating in the challenge. [21][22] You hear that? A charge of ARSON.
    It's a trend that promoted crime, has garnered attention from firefighters and schools, covered in various news sources, is popular even after a week, destroyed property, and led to an arrest.
    Yeeessss, very unotable.ಠ_ಠ Thegoofhere (talk) 00:27, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
just keep it on bro 166.109.26.101 (talk) 14:04, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
istg there are undocumented terrorists out there and your worried about some stupid article of a true challenge 166.109.26.101 (talk) 14:06, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And the sky is blue. That has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Oaktree b (talk) 14:20, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Whataboutism 165.140.214.242 (talk) 14:41, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Still nothing to do with the discussion, there is no point keeping this article on a very likely short-lived fad. Oaktree b (talk) 15:30, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Anon wasn't talking to you, nor disagreeing with you. Thegoofhere (talk) 19:35, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

couple months then it can be deleted and i doubt it will "die down" after getting covered by the biggest reliable source of wikipedia,The New York Times and based on the page views and Google Search Trend which shows over 100 searches and the related searches are "TikTok Challenge" and for the page views and its getting 28 views per a day because its getting AfD'ed, one of the biggest TikTok challenges blowing up right now and people are confused and don't know what it is because its getting AfD'ed. Momentoftrue (talk) 14:43, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto. Also, its still getting coverage. Most memes die within like, 2 days. To even pass 1 week proves its a noteworthy subject, even if it's not as popular after a couple of days. Thegoofhere (talk) 01:38, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Plus, it's been long enough for most independent articles about the challenge to be secondary Thegoofhere (talk) 22:39, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Brioschi quintic form (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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How to page on an obscure quintec, full of WP:OR and self-published sources (blogs). Page was draftified in November 2024, with advice to cleanup and resubmit via AfC. Originator has ignored this, doubled the size of the paper and recently moved it back to main. No clear demonstration of notability, and numerous problems. Wikipedia is not the place for advertising of a users work in any form. Ldm1954 (talk) 12:09, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Independents for the National Community (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This was created by a since blocked user. It's existed for a while which is why I'm not nominating for speedy deletion, but the article is significantly different from its Spanish version. Although the party is likely notable, the rationale behind the user's block (right-wing trolling and sockpupetry) makes me think it's best to delete this and let it be recreated properly by someone who understands the topic, rather than try to fix it. Rkieferbaum (talk) 12:09, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Michael D. Martinez (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A non-notable academic. This likely AI-generated biography appears to have hallucinated some facts, for example saying that he was editor of the journal Forum: A Journal of Applied Research in Contemporary Politics, the sole source for which is a permanent dead link. Martinez's own CV does not list this editorship, nor does the journal's website. Since we cannot verify that he was a journal editor, he meets no other criteria of WP:NACADEMIC; his H-index of 22 is well below the normal range for a full professor in social sciences. He does not pass WP:NAUTHOR since his edited books have not had multiple reviews (and there is no consensus on whether co-editing a book counts for NAUTHOR). He doesn't pass WP:ANYBIO#1 for his Fulbright, 800+ of which are awarded every year, so it's not a particularly distinct honor. I don't see evidence that he's quoted regularly on his expertise in the mainstream press. (The AI appears to have hallucinated a nonexistent link to the New York Times website.) The citation for the sentence These books, reviewed in *Palgrave Macmillan* for their interdisciplinary approach, have been cited in *American Political Science Review* and *Political Psychology* for advancing survey measurement of ambivalence. does not actually mention Martinez' books at all and is likely another hallucination based on keyword similarity. In addition to failing WP:N, this bio has significant WP:V problems for a BLP and should be deleted. Dclemens1971 (talk) 11:00, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. One of many LLM pages created by the same editor (30 one-edit articles), too many of which have since been draftified or nominated for deletion (see User talk:Wq4m820). At least one other I checked was full of AI hallucinations, similar to this. I will leave a gentle warning, hopefully the editor will adjust how they are creating pages. Ldm1954 (talk) 12:37, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ldm1954 I found another that was AI-generated and went with the non-gentle warning, considering they've already gotten four warnings this month and have been non-responsive to those but continue to create problematic articles. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:10, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    at this point, all the articles must seem suspect. I see 6 articles on May 17 in the span of only 5 hours, 7 articles on May 15 in the span of just 3 hours each with 5-7kb of content. this seems all a bit fishy. --hroest 16:09, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Some hits on the name in Gscholar, but I'm not sure they're about this same person. The fact that the editor has used AI to create other low-quality articles doesn't fill me with hope either for this... I don't see much of anything in a RS Oaktree b (talk) 13:13, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Irredeemable, nuke it and possibly start over. Geschichte (talk) 16:00, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete I believe with his GS profile, with an h index of 22 and several publications with 100+ citations he is close to the bar of passing WP:NPROF but doesnt quite clear it in my book. I wouldnt quite write him off though, maybe this is just a bit WP:TOOSOON. However, given the other issues with the page, and that we cannot really trust anything that is currently written, there isnt really much to salvage. --hroest 16:05, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
District heating of Kharkhorin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Too narrow a topic for a standalone article, not much significant coverage. I've already merged any relevant content into the Infrastructure section on the Kharkhorin article. Mooonswimmer 09:40, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rynek, Lesser Poland Voivodeship (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Mass-created article by Kotbot. Name means simply "Market" (or "market square"). In reality, as the Polish article states, the map shows, and Teryt confirms, this is not a settlement but just a part (i.e., część, and not necessarily a populated part) of the village of Brzezówka. Happy to redirect as an ATD. FOARP (talk) 09:01, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Forever's End (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non notable artist. Primary sourced promotion lacking coverage in independent reliable sources. Closest it gets is an interview with the director in a PRNEWSWIRE feed. No sign of any independent reviews, eg. Prod removed giving no helpful reason. (previous afd was for different subject) duffbeerforme (talk) 08:25, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Adrian Antonsen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non notable filmmaker. WP:BLP1E, Got a little bit of feel good interview coverage (lacking independence) for being young but nothing sustained. Otherwise lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Awards are not major. Smells like UPE. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:23, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kevin Alexander Boon (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Autobiograpy of non notable filmmaker/academic. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Awards are not major. Previous PROD deletion. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:21, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

SmartFone Flick Fest (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non notable film festival. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Ref 3 FilmInk is a press release. Ref 7 Sydney Times is a portion of same. Ref 5 Filmink is PR from MINA, a partner. Mentions in articles about films that showed there is trivial coverage. Notability is not inherited from their ambassadors. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:19, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Berlin Independent Film Festival (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Primary sourced promotion for non notable film festival. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Notability is not inherited from people they give awards to. Mentions in articles about films that showed there is trivial coverage. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:18, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Maverick Movie Awards (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Primary sourced promotion for non notable award farm. Bombarded with name dropping but notability is not inherited. Bombarded with lots of primary sources but lack coverage about the actual award organisation. Prod removed because of incoming links but notability is not inherited from those who get one of their "awards". duffbeerforme (talk) 08:15, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

World Film Carnival Singapore (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non notable film festival. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Notability is not inherited from people they give awards to. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:13, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Obvious AI slop, see WP:AN/I discussion — The Anome (talk) 08:11, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Addition of obvious AI slop with hallucinated references, see WP:AN/I discussion — The Anome (talk) 08:08, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails all notability guidelines. Mekomo (talk) 07:15, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in WP:LISTED (or any other) case. Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources, whether on or off Wikipedia, should be viewed with caution, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. Apart from that, activities like revenue targets, profit/financial reporting, turnover news, capacity expansion news etc., are merely routine coverage WP:ROUTINE, regardless of where they are published. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 07:48, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Not a notable manager and CEO. I don't see the sources to pass WP:Anybio. Cinder painter (talk) 08:06, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Addition of AI slop, see discussion on WP:AN/IThe Anome (talk) 07:48, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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AI-generated article with fabricated citations about a world champion in an extremely niche sport (teqball). Most coverage I dug up was routine match reports like 1, 2, 3, and 4. The only decent coverage I found is an interview from a teqball-specific blog, which isn't terribly helpful for our purposes. JTtheOG (talk) 07:33, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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All I was able to find on this basketball player was this interview with the subject and this interview with his parents, which I don't believe warrant a standalone article. JTtheOG (talk) 07:32, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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AI-generated garbage. See first revision of page, check out the nonsensical citations. — The Anome (talk) 07:27, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable Thai coffee shop. No reliable sources that I could discern, and it would seem unlikely and would exist. Current sources include YouTube and blogs. Fails WP:N, WP:NCORP. Cabrils (talk) 07:18, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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No usable sources (including ja:wiki) and no good claim to notability to meet either WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. No valid redirect target. Geschichte (talk) 07:07, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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No usable sources (including ja:wiki) and no good claim to notability to meet either WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. No valid redirect target. Geschichte (talk) 07:08, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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No usable sources (including ja:wiki) and no good claim to notability to meet either WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. No valid redirect target. Geschichte (talk) 07:09, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Bio article yet seems to advertising a restuarant. No indication of significance. Refs are woeful. Fails WP:SIGCOV. scope_creepTalk 06:59, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy deleted‎ by The Anome (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) as "AI-slop generating contributor, see WP:AN/I". (non-admin closure) WCQuidditch 10:55, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I think this is notable but it should be blanked. There are no inline citations and man listed as speaker died before taking office. Also article was created by a blocked user Czarking0 (talk) 06:52, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, along with all this editor's other article creations. This appears to be AI slop. See the current WP:AN/I discussion, and their own comment admitting their use of AI here: [34]The Anome (talk) 07:17, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. Furthermore, the WP:BEFORE check has failed. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 07:50, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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No indication of standalone notability outside band. Fails WP:SIGCOV. scope_creepTalk 06:43, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Subject clearly fails WP:NPOL. From GNG perspective, the sources either fail one or two of the three criteria. This is substantial coverage but fails WP:INDEPENDENT. This fails WP:SIGCOV. This is substantial coverage but fails WP:INDEPENDENT. This is probably substantial but fails WP:INDEPENDENT and WP:IRS. Others happen to be WP:ROUTINE. Hence, GNG is not met. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:25, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Uncourced, non notable Mn1548 (talk) 05:59, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:GEOLAND only presumes notability for the legally recognized city of Basirhat, not the informally defined Tannery Garden neighborhood. Citing the Bharat Sevashram Sangha website's listing of its address cannot support the claim that the area is famous for that group's presence. Listing the post office pin code does not establish notability because all sufficiently small areas have a single postal code. The Basirhat Police website failed to load, but it seems to only establish the neighborhood's existence, rather than providing significant coverage of the neighborhood as a distinct entity. The claimed 2025 population and literacy rate are made without citation, which is particularly confusing because the 2025 census of India remains indefinitely postponed, while the 2011 census of India only measured Basirhat as a whole, not at the neighborhood level. ViridianPenguin🐧 (💬) 05:59, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I came across this page yesterday refbombed with recipe blogs. I looked for better sources to replace them and could only find two sources with sigcov: Metroscene mag and Field Guide to Cookies. I've since looked closer at Metroscene Mag and see they identify as a blog, leaving only one source contributing to GNG.
ATDs: (1) Redirect to Filipino cuisine where they are mentioned. An expansion would give undue weight, they do not appear particularly important to Filipino cuisine. (2) Merge to Filipino-American cuisine: I disapprove of this. The article is currently scoped to Filipino food in America (i.e. food of Filipino Americans) and would be out of scope. (3) Redirect to list of cookies: Oppose a merge as the criteria for inclusion is implicitly "meets GNG". Rollinginhisgrave (talk | contributions) 05:21, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

National Council on Compensation Insurance (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There are no references at all to this insurance-related industry-funded company in Florida. FeralOink (talk) 01:35, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep this article needs to be improved and sourced (If I have time I will do those things later,) but this article has reliable sources and the subject is notable. After all, notability is based off of the existence of sources, not just the ones in the article. It's also a non-profit, not really a company. Here we go: [35][36][37][38][39][40] (Primary, non independent source), [41][42][43][44][45][46]. In essence, this is a data collection non profit for the insurance industry, and its relatively influential and important. Clearly passes the WP:GNG and the WP:NORG guidelines. In the future, please conduct an adequate WP:BEFORE check. --AnonymousScholar49 (talk) 03:22, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - AnonymousScholar49 is correct, that there exist some good sources that someone could add to the article, e.g. US Bureau of Labor Statistics and Insurance Journal are legit. As for this being a non-profit, I don't know about that. It is described as "a U.S. insurance rating and data collection bureau specializing in workers' compensation. Operating with a not-for-profit philosophy and owned by its member insurers...". I'm not sure why this is important but merely responding to Anon.--FeralOink (talk) 21:41, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep: Per WP:HEY, I’ve cleaned up the article and added WP:RS sources from the U.S. Department of Labor, Reuters, and Insurance Journal (2). Promotional and unsourced content has been removed or, where appropriate, clearly tagged. The article now meets WP:THREE and satisfies notability under WP:GNG. HerBauhaus (talk) 09:28, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Society for Cultural Interaction in East Asia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable academic society. Lacks RSs and seems unlikely any would exist. Cabrils (talk) 03:23, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete. I found no indication of notability and can't find a suitable target for a merge/redirect. I considered whether the article could be rescoped to be about the Journal of Cultural Interaction in East Asia, but that doesn't seem to be notable either. MCE89 (talk) 13:46, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Causing deaths and being reported in the news do not confer notability. Fails WP:EVENT. Unable to find any secondary coverage, only initial news reports and then the follow up news report when the driver died. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 22:35, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep There's been sustained coverage in reliable sources in late 2016 [47], 2017 [48], 2018 [49], 2019 [50], 2021 [51], 2023 [52][53][54][55]. MarioGom (talk) 17:26, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    2016 is breaking news about closing the case, 2017 and 2018 are breaking news about reopening the case, 2019 is breaking news about reclosing the case, 2021 is breaking news about a memorial (but also has significant coverage of the crash itself), the 2023 sources are about the driver's death and the subsequent end of the case, and 2021 (which you listed as 2023) is breaking news about a memorial. The 2021 source is promising, but I'd hope for at least one source that actually demonstrated that it's notable in its own right as opposed to contemporary coverage over a long period of time. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 02:52, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The one in 2021 provides non-breaking news in-depth coverage, as you already noticed, and that is sustained coverage:
    • Costantini, Luca (19 March 2021). "El 'caso Freginals', cinco años de parálisis judicial y con los familiares indignados". Vozpópuli (in Spanish).
    The forensic analysis of the case has been published in the Spanish legal medicine journal, which is effectively a primary source, but also an indication of it not being a routine event:
    • Cabús, Rosa Maria (2023). "Intervención forense en el accidente de autobús con 13 víctimas mortales en Freginals, Tarragona, España". Revista Española de Medicina Legal (in Spanish). 49 (2): 71–78. doi:10.1016/j.reml.2023.03.001.
    MarioGom (talk) 10:17, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Multiple WP:RS found.Sigma World (talk) 20:17, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I don't think this single event merits its own page. Does not have WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE, it has follow ups on opening/closing of case, but I don't think they establsih notability of the event. Which makes me think it is also not that notable. Based on WP:EVENTCRITERIA, seems to fall under routine news. Ramos1990 (talk) 05:01, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep international coverage over several years by reliable sources
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There's nothing there, and sources consistently characterize this as a post office. Mangoe (talk) 02:23, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep However it is not clear to me if this is legally recognized according to WP:GEOLAND which is what my argument is based on. Czarking0 (talk) 03:45, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please go read WP:GNIS. We have not taken listing in these official gazetteers for a long time, and in any case, GNIS in particular has proven to be vairly error-prone. Mangoe (talk) 10:25, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The story is at least untrue to the extent that this Mt. Pisgah is nowhere near the military base; it's over 150 miles away in a different corner of the state. Mangoe (talk) 02:20, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. No evidence that this ever was a community in the sense required by GEOLAND. Eluchil404 (talk) 22:30, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment There was more than a post office at Mt. Pisgah. According to Fort Wayne Journal Gazette, April 9, 1921 Page 6 there was a general mercantile store there that sold coffee for the desperate. It is mentioned as a "place" in Hoosier Folklore Bulletin, Vol. 2, No. 1 (Jun., 1943), pp. 14-16. ([57]). So there's a hint that there's more than a post office, but evidence is shy that it was a community. Maddening. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 02:07, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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While this isn't a G4, the substance of the issues raised at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Halocene do not appear to have been addressed by this new draft and merger. Since the decision is two years old, a new consensus may be helpful. Bringing it here for discussion. Star Mississippi 01:30, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete - Saw this earlier but was going to let the dust settle a day prior to bringing to AfD. Page created despite draft being declined multiple times. Fails WP:NBAND and WP:GNG.--CNMall41 (talk) 04:46, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect back to The Masked Singer (Australian TV series)#Controversy (effectively endorsing the closure of the first AfD). Now that I've the energy to sit and do WP:BEFORE search, I've found mostly press releases or routine announcements, some of which are cited in the article itself. Many of the in-depth coverage in independent secondary sources are about the plagiarism accusations. I had done the merge because a patroller (?) found Halocene (band) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and requested a pageswap with the base page name. I thought it better to keep the extensive page history at plain old Halocene, especially since (band) only has my merge, the patroller's addition of a short description and hatnote, and the recreator's writing. (For transparency, nominator notified me about this AfD on my user talk.) Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 06:35, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I absolutely agree with aggregating the history together in the event Halocene becomes notable and have no issue with any of your actions here @Rotideypoc41352. I also notified the creator of the new article so that you were both aware since the script "saw" the creator as the the one who created the article deleted in 2023. I'm guessing the history was somewhere as this is a remarkable first edit even assuming Rledder had been active as an IP before registering for easy creation. Star Mississippi 12:48, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks! I just didn't want the potential contradiction between my initial actions (removing the redirect) and my comment here [to restore it] to confuse the closer or anyone else looking into this AfD, so I thought I would clarify that the merge was more about attribution and page history than about notability. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 19:52, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect - Redirect with history in tact to The Masked Singer (Australian TV series)#Controversy. --Jax 0677 (talk) 12:38, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep meets WP:GNG. I created this in good-faith but for some reason a promotional version was restored - I've removed unsourced and promotional content. Halocene has received coverage beyond The Masked Singer controversy, coverage dates back to 2011 when Phoenix New Times covered it ([58]). Two state-level publications have covered it including Phoenix New Times and Arizona Republic and meets WP:SIGCOV thresold. Phoenix New Times covered it in-depth in 2011, 2017, and 2020. Rock Sound covered it in 2023. None of these sources were provided by editors in the previous draft or deletion discussion. There are more references in music magazines as well and should be kept. Rledder (talk) 11:53, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for cleaning up the article and for leaving a detailed comment here. I see what I consider to be an acceptable variability in judgment on which sources show the band meets GNG (or WP:NBAND). The first two [external] links are to the same source (explaining for closer's convenience)—and it is an interview, which is not independent of the subject and doesn't help determine if they meet GNG. I have no firm opinion on the 2017 PNT article; the 2020 one does meet the WP:SIRS criteria. I read the 2023 Rock Sound piece as a routine announcement (of a new release) and thus not significant coverage of the band (and maybe not even for the single itself, tangentially). Returning to the topic at hand, I do not know if we have had consensus that two sources shows that this subject meets GNG. As nominator said, this discussion will hopefully clarify that and the evaluation for notability purposes of the sources we can find. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 17:17, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Clarifying for closer that WP:SIRS in my reply above simply refers to the bullet points under WP:GNG: secondary sources independent of the subject, reliable, and contain significant coverage of the subject. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 19:16, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, the band passes WP:GNG/WP:NBAND. As it currently stands, with two articles that meet WP:SIRS criteria, it passes that test. While I see merit in the redirect option, a read into the band's article and the sources linked suggests that while the controversy surrounding The Masked Singer did play a major factor, their notability is not solely derived from that incident.
(also a minor declaration that I was the one who happened to patrol the article as Rotideypoc mentioned) Frank(has DemoCracy DeprivaTion) 16:19, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Can you share the sources which you feel show it passes GNG/NBAND? Also, how does SIRS apply as that is a company guideline? --CNMall41 (talk) 16:48, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
SIRS does apply to the source materials, which shows a likely level of notability associated with the subject. In this case, having at least one quoted article in 2019 coming from The Arizona Republic - the most widely circulated newspaper in Arizona - infers a presumable notability that goes statewide.
In addition to The Masked Singer controversy article(s), one of which was the aforementioned quoted article, the 2020 Phoenix New Times article @Rledder mentioned earlier in the discussion states that the band has taken what was back in 2020 considered a lesser-adopted approach to Twitch as a platform, and are recognized by the streaming platform for it. That in itself merits independent notability from The Masked Singer, and a degree of notability that is non-trivial. Frank(has DemoCracy DeprivaTion) 17:55, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am sorry but SIRS has NO application for this page. It is a subject specific notability guideline dealing with companies, not musicians and/or bands. You have also failed to cite the requested sources that show notability under GNG or NBAND. Do you have those available for the discussion? --CNMall41 (talk) 18:07, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I will concede on the SIRS part as this may have been my misunderstanding on how it's applied in sources. As to the requested sources: The Arizona Republic article (reference 9), as well as the PNT article in question (reference 4). Frank(has DemoCracy DeprivaTion) 18:28, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, thank you for conceding. The AP article is paywalled but I am assuming it was prior to 2023? I should have specified that I am looking for sources showing notability since the last deletion discussion where it was found they were not notable. We are not here to relitigate the previous AfD. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:32, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Jackson Kreuser (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet WP:BIO. Sources cited are several database entries, a paid publicity announcement, and a single local news announcement of a transfer. News search turns up a few mentions of his name in lists of players, but no in-depth coverage. — Moriwen (talk) 01:44, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The Heart of Edna Leslie (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I did my WP:BEFORE and found that it does not meet both WP:RS and WP:N. It is a silent film with almost no reliable sources, not worthy of Wikipedia DankPedia (talk) 19:02, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - Given that the film was released in 1910, sourcing is understandably sparse. I added a link to this title on Turner Classic Movies. The old silent films are difficult to source. — Maile (talk) 15:52, 14 May 2025 (UTC) - Well, I just found a link to the The Meridian Morning Record of October 24, 1910 that reviewed the film. Hope this helps. — Maile (talk) 16:06, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I found some additional ones in Newspapers.com - they're short and some of them are of course posted in multiple places, but they're there. ([59], [60]) I'd like some more in-depth content though, if possible. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 22:05, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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California Cup Juvenile Fillies Stakes (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non notable horse race with limited reliable sources. The only ones were data sheets from the race, no notable coverage in the press. DankPedia (talk) 03:21, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 22:04, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Fails WP:NORG - no indication of WP:SUSTAINED notability supported by WP:RS. Amigao (talk) 03:17, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom and google does not show sources
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I did my WP:BEFORE and am nominating it for deletion under the grounds of WP:N. It could barely find any sources in Japanese, and none in English. DankPedia (talk) 02:43, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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nn musicial. Tagged for notability for 10 years already. Music on self label. Sources I see only interviews (maybe I am lazy, but failed to find independent coverage). --Altenmann >talk 03:13, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Despite holding a faculty position and receiving an award, there is no significant coverage of Nigel Hughes in independent sources. The article relies mostly on university-hosted professional profiles, I could not find substantial third-party sources and article does not appear to meet WP:GNG or WP:PROF. Chronos.Zx (talk) 02:36, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

European Esperanto Union (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No significant coverage independent of the subject. Aŭstriano (talk) 01:53, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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fails WP:GNG; I did some searching and was not able to find significant coverage in any reliable source Joeykai (talk) 01:20, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Not finding much significant coverage of the player in reliable sources. Significant coverage is only in a hockey blog. There is certainly difficulty in searching Hungarian sources, but thus far my search has been unsuccessful.
Here is a quick assessment of the sources in the article (note: I am relying on google translate for these). Not sure if this will change your mind @Flibirigit:
1,4,8,10,11,12 are from a hockey blog and are not reliable
2: About national team, not player. Reisz only mentioned in roster list.
3: Only appears in roster list
5: Routine game coverage mentioning Reisz goal
6: Routine game coverage that mentions Reisz
7: Page not found
9: Behind paywall; most likely source for establishing notability
13: Only appears in roster list
Given there is only one potentially reliable, in-depth source this article should be deleted as it doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. Anonrfjwhuikdzz (talk) 02:20, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Tercio of Idiáquez (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Practically everything that has been written to expand the article in order to prevent it from being deleted is false (other than the Thirty Years' War section). The previous user who withdrew their AfD nomination did not fact check any of the sources or information added. The article has been expanded incorrectly and mostly falsified (though it's likely, or at least I'd like to think, that it wasn't done on purpose and the editor who expanded the article just wanted to help improve it). If you wish to help improve the article, please use proper sources which correlate with the information written. Bubba6t3411 (talk) 05:59, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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It was deleted a year ago, and not much has changed since then. There’s been the same routine coverage of events, interviews, and mentions. Since he’s an advertising executive, some routine media coverage is to be expected, but direct, in‑depth, quality coverage is still lacking. Fails WP:GNG. Gheus (talk) 09:16, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Notability is easily satisfied through both the GNG and the SNG about creative artists. The sources are not routine coverage. His advertising work is covered in depth in two academic papers. He was in charge of Turkey's second largest and oldest political party's advertising campaign. The nominator did an AfC review for this article but did not mention at all any concern about "notability" in their review comments, all their concern was about the non-encyclopedic style and NPOV violations. What is the reason for this inconsistency? If there is a notability concern, they should have mentioned in their AfC review. The subject is also the producer of various notable productions, which received coverage in sources like The Hollywood Reporter, which is considered a reliable source. The second deletion discussion was poorly attended, with non-policy-based !votes. RE: "not much has changed since then", please compare the two versions. Also, please see @Fram's comment in the first deletion discussion. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 14:30, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment This article was declined by Article for Creation on May 3 for being too promotional in tone. Article was then moved to main space by the creator with the comment The article waited too long in the AfC queue, and I disagree with the feedback it received. Feel free to nominate it for deletion if there are any concerns. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:27, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note, but not exactly... I'm not the article's creator. It was created in 2007, and I wasn't active on Wikipedia at the time, and I have no connection to the user who created it. The AfC reviewer and the nominator of this AfD are the same user, and for some reason, they believe not much has changed between this version of the article and this earlier version. Also, they didn't say it was promotional; they said the style violates the Neutral Point of View (NPOV) policy. I wasn't sure whether that meant it was too promotional or too defamatory, as there are paragraphs that could be interpreted either way, and all based on reliable sources. Note that the sources that I used are not tabloids, but mainstream Turkish newspapers, columnists, commentators and academic papers. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 02:06, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The two versions that need to be compared are the one declined at AFC 12:03, 3 May 2025 edit and the draft moved to main space 20:07, 3 May 2025. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alinur_Velidedeo%C4%9Flu&diff=1288613775&oldid=1288553988 You are correct that the article was declined as not written in a formal, neutral encyclopedic tone. I misspoke in my previous post when I stated the article was declined as being too promotional in tone. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:19, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The nomination statement of this AfD incorrectly states that not much has changed since the prior nomination, that's the reason I asked those two versions to be compared. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 02:01, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
comment I declined the speedy deletion, because the current article is substantially different from the one deleted, which consisted of only two of the current paragraphs. The opinion of a AfC reviewer does not constitute a deletion discussion, there is no need to have any improvement after that. No opinion on the notability, but given that it is harder to assert notability for people outside the english language world (and english references) and the efforts of TheJoyfulTentmaker in improving it, I suggest, that it is draftified/userfied if not kept - Nabla (talk) 11:48, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Kevin Kruse (surgeon) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unnotable bio that fails WP:GNG and WP:NBIO. Not sourced by any reliable sources and none could be found during WP:BEFORE. The first and last references state that they are WP:SPONSORED content, and the other two references are nothing more than directory listings. Was successfully PRODded once before, but the page creator requested its undeletion, but no new references or evidence of notability are available. Since it has been undeleted per the page creators request, coming here instead of WP:DRAFTIFYing. cyberdog958Talk 01:47, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Family tree of the Greco-Bactrian and Indo-Greek kings (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Opening introduction explicitly admits to "This family tree (and the trees below it) is based on a combination of Tarn's and Narain's genealogies of the Greco-Bactrian kings, which are not necessarily fully correct, as with all ancient family trees." The combination of these two trees is the entire basis of the article, which seems like not good enough for an article. It is highly speculative and not verifiable and the original authors (Tarn and Narain) have been criticised in more recent scholarship for speculative inventions. ForWhomTheSunShines (talk) 01:34, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello ForWhomTheSunShines, I understand the concerns and understand that Tarn and Narain may be inaccurate, but these are the texts that I have. I know that other authors say something different, so when I get those texts, I (or someone else) will revise the trees. Additionally, I give the kings several different fathers (for example, see Apollodotus I in the tree, who has 5 different possible fathers, so I am taking all possible considerations into account here). I also put dotted lines for some kings when the relationship is very unclear, making it being speculation clear. So I am making it clear these Greco-Bactrian trees, just like an Egyptian one (like the 1st Dynasty), will not necessarily be fully accurate. As for the speculation and unverifiable of the tree, well, we do have Greco-Bactrian coinage. The reason I said "This family tree (and the trees below it) is based on a combination of Tarn's and Narain's genealogies of the Greco-Bactrian kings, which are not necessarily fully correct, as with all ancient family trees." is because I want to make it very clear that is a probable layout for how the various kings are related to each other and is not supposed to be taken as dogma, just like many ancient family trees. If you want me to find different authors and replace Tarn and Narain, I will. I just wanted to use two of the most important Greco-Bactrian historians who helped establish the discipline.
OrthodoxByzantineRoman (talk) 01:51, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: couldn't this be saved simply by identifying the differences between the two authors' reconstructions, either by presenting different versions of the trees, or by showing the different positions taken by each author using the varying line and border options? If other scholars disagree with their opinions, that can also be noted on or adjacent to the trees. I will suggest that the trees might need to be less horizontal and more vertical. I never stretch my browser window to the whole width of the screen, and without that the trees exceed the width of the page. But this, like noting disagreements between the authors named and other scholarship, can be achieved through ordinary editing; the page does not have to be deleted in order to improve it to Wikipedia standards. P Aculeius (talk) 13:04, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for this comment. I agree that it could be saved this way, and I will add the position of the various authors too. OrthodoxByzantineRoman (talk) 15:46, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The authors' proposals themselves are questionable and unreliable. The first citation for the first tree is clear that it is “pedigree of the Euthydemids and Eucratides to show the fictitious descent from Alexander." (emphasis added). Tarn, William Woodthorpe (1966). The Greeks in Bactria and India (2 ed.). New York, U.S.: Cambridge University Press. p. 568. ISBN 9781108009416. Retrieved 30 December 2024. The placement of a daughter of Euthydemus I marrying a Chinese emperor and bearing is son is based on speculation from an uncited paragraph. There's mashing together of speculative theory throughout the page.
    This seems to be a violation of reason for deleting #6, "[a]rticles that cannot possibly be attributed to reliable sources, including neologisms, original theories and conclusions, and hoaxes." The combination of multiple speculative, unreliable articles into one family tree is effectively the construction of an original theory or conclusion. It also violates ForWhomTheSunShines (talk) 23:40, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, but if we ignore the descent from Alexander, doesn't Tarn still state everything else, according to The Greeks in Bactria and India pgs 71ff? And I agree that the connection to Qin Shi Huangdi is spurious, I just added it on the off chance it could be correct. It was taken from Christopoulos, Lucas (September 2022). "SINO-PLATONIC PAPERS: Dionysian Rituals and the Golden Zeus of China" (PDF). Sino-Platonic Papers. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, U.S.: University of Pennsylvania. pp. 84–86. Retrieved 4 January 2025. Also, if we clean up and or/delete this article (hopefully not because I did work hard on it), we must clean up the individual articles on the Greco-Bactrian and Indo-Greek kings too, as sources need to be cited for each king's article and other changes need to be made. However, we don't have to delete this article, as it can be cleaned up to remove it of any "speculative theory." OrthodoxByzantineRoman (talk) 03:01, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    "the off chance" is not a reason to add something to an article. And you are correct, many of the Greco-Bactrian and Indo-Greek king articles should also be cleaned up. ForWhomTheSunShines (talk) 04:10, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, I mean, it is my first article that I made. I did not know those rules. But tomorrow, I will delete Qin Shi Huangdi, as I see now that the Lucas reference in the Xiutu article was removed. OrthodoxByzantineRoman (talk) 04:33, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move to draft. Not ready for main space. Celia Homeford (talk) 11:02, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Umm....other editors allowed my article to be published back in December. Why would we put it back into draft? OrthodoxByzantineRoman (talk) 14:48, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Because it's "Not ready for main space". If it's not moved, it should be deleted as a badly-formatted and ill-cited mess of original research and speculative fiction. Celia Homeford (talk) 08:08, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Telegantic Megavision (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 01:22, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm not seeing how this YouTuber meets notability criteria per WP:GNG nor WP:NENTERTAINER. The sourcing is very weak, mostly to blogs or blog-like sources or to user-submitted content. The tone is promotional and the article contains quite a bit of non-encyclopedic trivia such as the name of their pet snake and their collection of Pokemon cards. Netherzone (talk) 00:31, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep: Do you consider The Verge to be a reliable sources? And as per WP policies primary sources can be used for citing basic facts.
I believe you misread the article, the article does not talk about his collection of Pokémon cards, it says how he makes Pokémon like cards for each of the cars he reviews
if you don’t like the part about his snake, delete it DankPedia (talk) 01:10, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@DankPedia, do you have a relationship with DankPods? LibStar (talk) 01:13, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No. DankPedia (talk) 01:19, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A very similar name though. LibStar (talk) 01:22, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You created the DankPods article and your user name coincidentally is User:DankPedia??? —A. B. (talkcontribsglobal count) 01:23, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Check the logs, this was a renaming. I do not have any personal connection with DankPods, nor have I ever met the guy in person. DankPedia (talk) 01:29, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Although I sympathize with the nom, I took a BOLD edit to this and I think GNG is met. I removed some of the more PROMO content Czarking0 (talk) 01:30, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
'''Keep''' I agree. This article should be kept. It goes, while not in depth, into facts about dankpods that should be on wikipedia. Also, we can always edit this article to make it more suitable than it already is. IIEcolor (talk) 01:48, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the edit, I did change the wording a bit, instead of saying he "attracted" 1.2 million followers I said he has 1.2 million subscribers
This will help with WP:NPOV, which I feel this article satisfies DankPedia (talk) 01:49, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Czarking0's edits satisfies NPOV and there are quite a few sources showing notability 174.193.137.171 (talk) 02:16, 21 May 2025 (UTC)174.193.137.171 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Weak Keep - I'm going to say that the Sydney Morning Herald and The Verge sources barely push this over the line of notability. The other's I'm not convinced of their reliability or depth of coverage. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 03:30, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per 78.26. I agree that the SMH and The Verge sources are just enough to satisfy GNG. Both of them are reliable sources and the articles are pretty clearly independent SIGCOV. I'm not convinced by any of the others. MCE89 (talk) 14:50, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fourteen Days' War (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Note tag. Supposed to be historical fact but can't verify it as no page numbers. No indication of significance. Unable to verify it in gbooks, refseek, internet archive. Fails WP:GNG. scope_creepTalk 08:35, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I somewhat agree with the deletion. The event however do exist but the source for it is very lacking and the original article mostly just anti communist fantasy. I've edited it to make it more neutral but still, proper academic source such as university research is hard to find. Dauzlee (talk) 03:41, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Dauzlee: That is the core of it. Normally I wouldnt' sent such an article to Afd. In fact I don't think I've done that before and probably wont do it again. I spent close 4 hours back and forward while I was working in the garden on Sunday and couldn't find a thing on it of worth. I must have looked at it about 8 times and couldnt determine if it was valid or not. I don't think it was a war, more like a massacre or an action but either way I could verify it. I searched for an alternate name perhaps from the opposing side and couldn't find anything there either. scope_creepTalk 04:07, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Procedural AfD following WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 May 5#DYRG. Duckmather (talk) 00:30, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This IP has been blocked for disruption. Geschichte (talk) 09:18, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Relisting comment: Relisting, this short page has a complicated recent history and I don't believe it is eligible for a Soft Deletion especially as an editor involved and who cast a "vote" here has been blocked. Can we get some more arguments here? This article was BLAR'd and objected to so Redirection is another option besides Keep and Delete.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:20, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment This is probably the 10th radio or TV station I have seen at AfD this month. Is there any wider effort to address this ?
Czarking0 (talk) 01:33, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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