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The result was speedy keep‎. Procedural close, nominator is a sock and no editor arguing for Deletion. Liz Read! Talk! 20:46, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pathaan (YRF Spy Universe) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I don’t think this needs its own article yet. Pathaan as a character has appeared only in one full film (Pathaan) and a small cameo in Tiger 3. There are no detailed, reliable sources covering the character alone. Suggest merge to film or YRF Spy Universe page. ইমরান ভূইয়া (talk) 15:27, 17 June 2025 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE. plicit 14:54, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As far as independent notability goes, I couldn't find anything that focused on the character in specific. There's mention in relation to the film's development and reviews, but not really anything like "best character ever" or "themes of character", which is what would be needed for establishing character notability. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 14:45, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If anyone wants to just procedural close this and leave this article live until a non-sock brings this up, I'm fine with that. I'm not so set on my opinion that I'd argue for this to remain open and receive consensus. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 18:48, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎. I see a consensus to Keep this article. Liz Read! Talk! 20:48, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jones Road Fire (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP: ROUTINE wildfire event with very little lasting impact. XYZ1233212 (talk) 12:57, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Imo worth noting due to the amount of evacuations and proximity to urban areas. California has had countless articles for wildfires with little to no impact, this one has more impact than most of those do. WatchOutBroo (talk) 02:26, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Weak keep: Seems like a noteworthy fire for New Jersey per WatchOutBroo. There seems to be a little more than just routine coverage, but not a significant amount. Hurricane Wind and Fire (talk) 04:37, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete or Redirect to List of wildfires. This part of New Jersey is sparsely inhabitated with a flammable ecosystem, and fires of this size are more common than one might think. This fire did not make the Twentieth Century's top ten, and there were undoubtedly many larger and poorly-documented wildfires before that. From eyeballing the list linked, this was probably about a 20–30 year fire. Given the minimal human impact (1 structure destroyed), I think this topic is best treated as a list entry or deleted altogether. (Spinning off a List of New Jersey wildfires would also be a reasonable place to stash this, but much of the content is unnecessary detail even in that context.) Choess (talk) 23:10, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Weak keep - seems noteworthy enough to me, but is definitely too detailed. Needs some CE CVDX (talk) 00:42, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Change to weak keep I know I'm swinging in and out, but there are more points against deletion. Hurricane Wind and Fire (talk) 04:33, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - seems to be very informative. More improvements can make it more better!--FreaksIn 13:18, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect‎ to Pakistan at the 1948 Summer Olympics#Athletics. Liz Read! Talk! 23:15, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nazar Muhammad Khan Malik (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject does not have the needed WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:SPORTSCRIT. All I could find in a WP:BEFORE is a couple of sentences at [[6]] but it is not significant coverage. Let'srun (talk) 23:54, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Liz Read! Talk! 20:56, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Marbella International Film Festival (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non notable film festival. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Google.es news search for "Festival Internacional de Cine de Marbella" found multiple hits but they are of the press release type from individual actors/films saying look what I won or look our film is playing instead of being coverage of the festival itself. (Note, my Spanish is lacking so there was a large reliance on machine translation.) That or straight press release, eg the 20minutos source added by A .B. [7]. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:05, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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References which may provide a boost to keep this article. These areferences are significant and provide indepth coverage: [13], [14], [15], [16], [17], [18], [19], [20], [21], and many more you can find in Google search. CresiaBilli (talk) 05:52, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
These are either unreliable or trivial mentions, and don't pass WP:GNG: [7] Not independent: EuroWeekly News sponsors the festival, and allows for covert paid articles (see this under SEO Services) [8] Blog on real estate site [9] User-generated [10] Real estate site [11] Passing mention in a list of festivals [12] Not about the festival, but about a film at the festival [13] Only one sentence about the festival [14] Only 2 sentences, and is an unreliable site (Look at all the spam links here, and it lists itself as incorporated under a different company on the About Us page vs the Advertising page). - Whisperjanes (talk) 20:31, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:15, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of Malevolent Creation members (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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It's debatable whether a list dedicated to all former/current members significantly sourced to WP:QS bloggy sources of marginally notable band is encyclopedic. Graywalls (talk) 23:30, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 20:57, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ithamar Romanos (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Clear fail of GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 15:55, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 21:01, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fasih Ur Rehman (entrepreneur) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:ANYBIO and WP:GNG. Part of the StayCalmOnTress SOCK farm created to circumvent the deletions of Green Entertainment and the name variations they have attempted to create. CNMall41 (talk) 18:40, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep – The subject meets Wikipedia’s notability guidelines based on multiple independent, reliable sources that provide significant coverage of his career and impact in the media and business sectors. Reputable Pakistani media outlets such as Daily Pakistan, Dawn Images, Samaa TV, and Startup Pakistan offer editorial content discussing his professional background, leadership, and contributions which I believe that it satisfies the requirements of WP:GNG. Ayudessie (talk) 14:40, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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* Keep. Article is about a notable Person in Pakistan. He is the CEO of a major television network Green Entertainment and a notable Businessman. He is also a recipient of Notable Government Awards. I have found a better coverage from Independent and Reliable Sources across the web. Sxohi (talk) 07:51, 22 June 2025 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE ~SG5536B 22:57, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. asilvering (talk) 02:16, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]


List of words with the suffix -ology (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Wikipedia is not a dictionary. There is already a suitable page for redirect. Insanityclown1 (talk) 21:57, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Merge to -logy. There is no great and compelling reason why this content could not be maintained as a section of the existing article with that header. BD2412 T 21:59, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The compelling reason is WP:NOTDICT, which I elaborate on below. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 03:56, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep or Merge: WP:NOTDICT allows for articles such as this. I think the confusion here is that this is a list article that happens to include definitions as secondary information. That is easy to solve as WP:NOTDICT says: "Both dictionaries and encyclopedias contain definitions." Quoting from WP:WORDISSUBJECT: "In some cases, a word or phrase may be an encyclopedic subject. In these cases, the word or phrase in and of itself passes Wikipedia's notability criteria as the subject of verifiable coverage by reliable sources. As with any subject, articles on words must contain encyclopedic information. That is, such articles must go beyond what would be found in a dictionary entry (definition, pronunciation, etymology, use information, etc.)". This "article on words" includes an introduction with secondary sources, many of which cover the general topic of ology words. This meets the threshold for notability and WP:STANDALONE. This could be even better met by merging as suggested above. Furthermore, the majority of the terms in this list are already in Wikipedia, indicating notability above that of typical Wiktionary entries. Finally, there is a long precedent for lists relating to words in Wikipedia. Lists of English words provides some examples, as will a search for the various categories for lists of words. Rublamb (talk) 01:50, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I think this is a misreading of NOTDICT. Please see my explanation below. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 03:56, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. I requested this at WT:AFD, but apparently someone else nominated it without my nom statement, which I'm copying below:

    Contested WP:BLAR. This list is a clear violation of WP:NOTDICT. There is no underlying concept for the list here, merely words that share a particular suffix. We shouldn't have this list more than we should have lists for every possible suffix (or prefix) in English (not to mention German, Swahili, etc etc). There's nothing special about this particular suffix that warrants a list like this. The little bit of possibly encyclopedic content in the intro is already covered at the article on -logy (which I'm still a little skeptical about, but it's at least near the border, not 20 miles past it).

    To elaborate on the NOTDICT failure a little, note that this is akin to the example there which indicates that "rocket" has a single entry at Wiktionary, while it has multiple pages at Wikipedia (salad rocket, rocket engine, rocket vehicle, etc). Here we have words like both "biology" and "technology", which have the same suffix, but that suffix has a different meaning in each -- indeed, the lead of the list even points out this fact.

    Likewise, there are words which share the same underlying suffix of -logy (which -ology is merely a form of), like wikt:archelogy (not archaeology!), which is still a field of study, but has the alternate form of the suffix. This is akin to another red flag indicated at NOTDICT (words with different spellings but the same meaning should be at the same article). Ditto for words like "trilogy".

    And to add a bit based on the above merge proposal, I would specifically oppose that, since there's nothing to merge here. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 02:22, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thems the breaks. If you want to nominate things without another editor exercising discretion in the process you can register an account. Jahaza (talk) 02:30, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    As described in the article's lede, the connection between the components of this list is that words ending in "ology" or "logy" are about a field of study or discipline. There might be a few exceptions that are included for completionism and educational purposes, but these do not diminish the overall concept behind this list. The differing meanings come from the front half of the word, not the suffix. Rublamb (talk) 05:31, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Except that's not the connection, as I mentioned above, as there are words with this suffix that are not a field of study or discipline, such as "technology" (there are others, too). And there are plenty of fields of study that don't use either suffix, such as physics, economics, etc etc. The only actual link here is a suffix, which violates NOTDICT, both in letter and spirit, for the reasons I explained above. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 11:54, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The common thread is defined in the cited secondary sources and in the topic's main article. Oxford Languages dictionary defines technology as "the branch of knowledge dealing with engineering or applied sciences". Thus, it is a field of study. We could essentially rename this article "List of fields of study" which is actually an interesting approach. Then, this would be a glossary that has a more obvious reason for being complied. The definitions, which are secondary content in this article, could also be removed, which is something I considered doing a while back. I believe that would also solve your dictionary-ish concerns. Rublamb (talk) 18:02, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment: The article in question was nominated for deletion previously. This AfD should likely be updated to mention that more prominently. DonIago (talk) 04:02, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Done, but you could have just done so yourself. Note that it was speedily kept more on procedural grounds than anything else, running only about 90 minutes, so is more than ripe for a new discussion. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 04:15, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Perhaps I could have, if I'd known how to. DonIago (talk) 06:19, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, or merge, based upon the above discussion. Bearian (talk) 17:12, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete and do not merge. Merging this indiscriminate list would damage the proposed target, and it is a clear case of WP:NOTDICT. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 17:24, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I think this is best thought of as a set index WP:SETINDEX and is useful for navigation. Jahaza (talk) 18:50, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:SIA pretty clearly explains why this isn't one. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 21:32, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm afraid pointing to an entire article doesn't really explain what your objection is. Jahaza (talk) 22:20, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep or merge Redlinks that don't go to an article about a respective study should probably be removed, but this is an appropriate navigational list. Reywas92Talk 19:03, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    It's not valid as a navigational list any more than "Articles that end in -ism" is valid for the reasons I described above...or articles that start with "metro-" ...or pick any old random prefix or suffix. Are you saying "technology" should be removed? What about "archelogy" (the example I gave above, which doesn't end in -ology, but is a field of study). What about "physics"? 35.139.154.158 (talk) 21:32, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Not even a dictionary would touch this. -logy only lists relatively frequently used examples like trilogy, tetralogy, etc. It doesn't branch out further afield, nor should it begin now (or ever). Clarityfiend (talk) 00:19, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep This is a valuable WP:SETINDEX: all of the items on the index have, at least to some degree, similar names (ending in -ology) and similar subjects (the study of something, for the most part). That is a more distinct commonality than a suffix like "ness" or "ing", where that would clearly be more of a stretch. The opening to the article also demonstrates that the study of the suffix and the commonalities/relationships between the words which use it, has sufficient SIGCOV to make the index useful. To the "so what's next, lists about other suffixes?", my answer would be, if they pass WP:SETINDEX, have WP:SIGCOV, and are useful, then yes - why not? FlipandFlopped 23:05, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Not the same as a list of "-ing" or other grammatical suffix. Ology denotes a specific set of fields of studies, as well as other words which are included as explained in the lede. A significant article which gathers attention on Wikipedia - though in itself not a reason for a vote to keep, reinforces my belief in its importance. Much of the discussion in this RfD about -logy vs -ology and non study -ology words is clearly explained in the lede.Nikolaih☎️📖 00:11, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:640:8D81:29B0:710E:5A64:EDF5:C52A (talk) 03:28, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. No prejudice against recreation if sources are located. asilvering (talk) 02:18, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oumar Samba Sy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject does not meet the WP:SPORTSCRIT due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. PROD was declined so taking this to AFD. Let'srun (talk) 22:07, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. We need to use common sense. Sy was the first Olympian in the history of Mauritania. He was the first flagbearer, the second flagbearer, and a medalist at major international competitions such as the African Championships. That's actually surprising for his country, which has historically been very poor in international sports. Being the first and second flagbearer as well as the first Mauritanian Olympian, and a continental medalist, is a historic accomplishment that is virtually certain to have been covered significantly. If there was any sportsperson covered at all in the 1980s in the nation, it would be him. We have not checked even a single newspaper in the history of the country; in fact, much of their media today remains offline. But that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Its common sense that he would have been covered for his historic achievements in his country's sporting history. I'll see if I can contact any Mauritanian newspapers to get further information on him. But either way, I'd like to note that notability is a guideline: Editors should generally follow it, though exceptions may apply. Does deleting one of the greatest sportspeople in the history of a nation really improve Wikipedia? I don't think so. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:19, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I'd also note that WP:BLP is important to note here as well. We have zero secondary sources for this subject, and the burden of evidence that this subject received coverage is on the editors advocating to keep the article. So far, zero IRS have been supplemented, but I am open to reconsidering should it be provided. Let'srun (talk) 01:41, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - As has been discussed many times now, there is no evidence that Mauritanians actually care that much about their country's performance at the Olympic games. Indeed, there are a number of indicators that they don't, not least of which was the lack of any coverage of the 2016, 2020, and 2024 Olympics by the state news agency.
We have also now discussed multiple times the media environment in Mauritania in the 1980s: it was a dictatorship where the only national press was a couple of heavily censored state-controlled newspapers serving an audience of fewer than ~700k literate Mauritanians. The widespread sports coverage that US-based commentators who have never lived in a dictatorship seem to imagine as being universal did not exist in the Mauritania of the 1980's.
We have also discussed the ways in which the "common sense" analysis that some want to apply is just the "every Olympian is notable" standard that was rejected in WP:NSPORTS2022 restated in different words. That applies here also - being the first participant is also a participation-based standard, being a standard bearer of a small team is also a participation-based standard.
Beannie repeatedly attacks the lack of searching of offline databases: the answer is for him to go and do it. I have gone far beyond the requirements of WP:BEFORE by searching Eastmain's MENA database in both Roman characters and Arabic. I also searched The Historical Dictionary of Mauritania - a book of several hundred pages which, if the subject of this article were even nearly as notable as made out above would almost certainly mention him, but doesn't.
The subject of this article simply isn't notable based on the evidence we have to hand. We should not have an article about them until we can show (not just assert: show) that they are notable by finding the missing SIGCOV. FOARP (talk) 13:06, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
North Korea is a dictatorship, yet they still cover their athletes significantly. Iran's media is state-controlled, yet they still cover their athletes significantly. Niger is controlled by a military dictatorship, yet I still found coverage of their top athletes from recently. I have never seen a country that didn't cover sports. Never. Whether Mauritania's news agency has covered the Olympics is not what matters: what matters is whether there is coverage of sports at all in Mauritania, which there is. If there was any sportsperson at all covered in Mauritania in the 1980s, it would be Sy. The Olympics specifically may not very well-followed, but apparently wrestling is popular there, and he has the greatest African Games finish for his country ever (they've never medaled, he came fourth). Being chosen for the honor of flagbearer is not "participation-based" nor an "every Olympian is notable argument", nor is being a medalist at major international tournaments either of those arguments. The "MENA database" contains no papers even close to where Sy is from. Nor does that dictionary mention sports at all. I do not have the ability to travel to Mauritania to search archives. We don't need to be ridiculous and require that for him to have an article. Notability is a guideline best treated with common sense (per notability); it is very obvious he is notable. In what way does deleting this – the greatest African Games finisher for Mauritania ever in any sport – improve the encyclopedia? BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:01, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"If there was any sportsperson at all covered in Mauritania in the 1980s, it would be Sy" - I'm going to say it definitely wouldn't be, because the national sport of Mauritania is not wrestling, it's football. But this requires not just blindly insisting that everywhere is like Delaware. FOARP (talk) 16:48, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment: Currently, the only sources are SportsReference, which is a database, and Olympedia, which is owned by the IOC and as such isn't independent. Let'srun (talk) 00:15, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, not sure what the closer is expecting us to say here. We've analysed the sources already above, they're the same ones that we've analysed in a large number of discussions many times and which were the primary subject of WP:NSPORTS2022. Nobody is claiming that they have even identified anything specific other than this, only vague hand-waves at WP:MUSTBESOURCES, the likelihood of this being true is what we've discussed in detail because that was the only argument being made for keeping this article.
I'm sorry if we're boring closers and not making things easy for them. I sorry if the same people keep showing up again and again. If these discussions keep falling in to the same holes and being essentially the same, it's because the articles are essentially the same because of how they were created: what more is it that is there to say than this? FOARP (talk) 13:32, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
FOARP, it's not a matter of "boring closers", I don't find AFDs boring, it's about being able to see a consensus among discussion participants. Often when source assessment tables are presented, it can sway some participants to change their preferred outcome to "Keep" or "Delete". The problem that all closers are trying to avoid is seeing a divided discussion and adding their own opinion in order to find a consensus. Then, you often get dragged to DRV and get accused of being a voter instead of a closer. That can get personal and be painful. And it seems like more and more AFD discussions these days have inconclusive outcomes and no clear consensus and "No consensus" closures make all sides unhappy. Liz Read! Talk! 23:24, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus‎. asilvering (talk) 02:22, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Biography of an artist, not properly referenced as having any strong claim to passing WP:NARTIST. As always, artists are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they existed, and have to show evidence of passing WP:GNG on significant coverage and analysis about their work in sources independent of themselves -- but the strongest notability claim attempted here is that she was exhibited at the local art gallery in her own hometown, which is not an instant notability pass in and of itself if there's no evidence of any wider more-than-local attention, and the article is referenced mainly to primary sources that aren't support for notability, such as her paid-inclusion obituary in the newspaper classifieds and the exhibition catalogues self-published by the directly affiliated gallery.
The only third-party source shown here at all is a single article in the local media about the local art supply store she owned, which is not enough coverage to singlehandedly vault her over GNG all by itself if it's the only non-primary source she's got. Bearcat (talk) 21:22, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've added references from an article in a peer-reviewed historical journal, as well as more information about permanent collections and an award. I hope that helps to support notability in this case. Diving into newspapers will need to wait for a couple of weeks.
I'm curious about your references to more-than-local attention: this may make the case for notability more difficult for people working in more rural & remote areas, as references to success in bigger cities are less likely to be seen as local only. Maybe this is an issue that's been discussed before, but I feel like it's worth thinking about. Skjanes tbay (talk) 20:44, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nomination. The subject fails WP:NARTIST. She has not been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, or won significant critical attention, or been represented within the permanent collections of any notable galleries or museums. The article relies on the catalog from the posthumous retrospective exhibition at local Thunder Bay Art Gallery. Other sources are local to Thunder Bay. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:08, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • weak keep The discussion of her work in a peer reviewed historical journal (which I unfortunately cannot access) together with the award and some coverage in local newspapers is enough to keep this per GNG and WP:HEY - there is no requirement to be well known on a national or global level as long as there is independent coverage. --hroest 18:57, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect‎ to Hearst Media Production Group#Programming blocks. Liz Read! Talk! 21:05, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:GNG, PROD was removed with "incoming links" notice, which never materialized. I found nothing in BEFORE that would establish notability. DonaldD23 talk to me 23:35, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Draftify‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:28, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Doesn't appear to have played in a competitive fixture for a fully professional team yet. Uhooep (talk) 21:45, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. asilvering (talk) 02:23, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Another stub created by Lugnuts. No WP:SIGCOV found. Svartner (talk) 21:43, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. per keep arguments and WP:HEY (non-admin closure) Cinder painter (talk) 06:57, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Per WP:SERIESA, promotional article about a company that has little to no coverage in WP:RS outside trade press profiles and financial announcements. FalconK (talk) 20:38, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep It definitely has a notable in-depth coverage in reliable independent and multiple sources. Forbes Staff from 2021 [23] provides a comprehensive, in-depth story written by the journalist himself. Another Forbes USA Staff piece from 2023 [24] gives more details on what happened and the startup is evolving. This Business Insider deep coverage by the Senior Correspondent Melia Russell, who has been covering tech since 2013, has an analysis of the previous statement of the company and sheds journalist analytics on the company's future, market position and user demand. [25] While this Business Insider by the same correspondent talks about AI agents and technology behind the company [26].
I also added this significant coverage from CNBC (June 10 this year) [27], which has a market analysis, new market valuation, and comparison with OpenAI, and so on. PodoSodo (talk) 21:23, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I do not agree this demonstrates reliable, independent, significant coverage, for these reasons:
  1. The article relies entirely on the company for sourcing and is merely a profile; see WP:SIRS
  2. Another profile, this time about the founder and not the company; does not make either notable for the same reason as above
  3. WP:ORGTRIV describing the company numerically and apparently sourced only from the company itself, making it dependent for the same reasons
  4. Dependent; entirely based on an interview with the company's head of product
  5. WP:ORGTRIV and also mostly based on interviews with the company's founders.
FalconK (talk) 22:38, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
partly agree, but not all sources I provide are dependent or based on the interviews or are event based. But it was a good comment for me to gather some new sources I did not see before. I applied SIRS which strictly sees one sentence coverage not notable (as in the NYTIMES example), but let's say 3-5 or more is kind of not a brief mention and may count towards SIRS reliable sources. below is my additional comment PodoSodo (talk) 12:02, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]


  1. Wheatley, Mike (2025-02-12). "Glean Technologies jumps into no-code agentic AI development with Glean Agents". SiliconANGLE. Retrieved 2025-06-24.
  2. Cai, Kenrick (2024-12-18). "Glean Emerges From Stealth With $55 Million To Bring Search To The Enterprise". Forbes. Retrieved 2025-06-24.
  3. Metz, Rachel (2024-02-27). "Glean is worth $2.2 billion as Citigroup, Databricks, Workday invest". CNBC. Retrieved 2025-06-24.
  4. Zeff, Maxwell (2024-12-18). "Perplexity acquires Carbon to connect AI search to your work files". TechCrunch. Retrieved 2025-06-24.

    The article notes an interesting thing, how Glean pushed the AI race and inspires OpeanAI and other competitors: "Glean... has reportedly inspired OpenAI, Google, and several other AI giants to develop their own enterprise search products — and perhaps they’ve inspired Perplexity as well."

  5. Wiggers, Kyle (written in a narrative and analytical style by a local journalist who has been covering AI for years) (2024-02-27). "Glean wants to beat ChatGPT at its own game — in the enterprise". TechCrunch. Retrieved 2025-06-24.
  6. Russell, Melia (2025-02-12). "Glean's latest AI release lets customers build digital agents that work while they sleep". TechCrunch. Retrieved 2025-06-24.
PodoSodo (talk) 12:03, 24 June 2025 (UTC) Wow. Don't think I've ever had to get WP:RD1 out for an AfD before. Please don't copy giant paragraphs out of the sources. -- asilvering (talk) 02:26, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Most of the new sources added and compressed-quoted here are Sigcov references, not trivial or occasional coverage. I found also much more but not sure it’s worth adding it here. WSJ has a good coverage on Glean and overall AI madness among big companies, surpassing the usual fundraising-type reporting. Fortune has also listed it as the top AI firm for two years in a raw. Seems it easily passes GNG.Uni44hossiq (talk) 18:00, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I guess there is a mistake in the last source. It should be Business Insider link https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-search-company-glean-launches-digital-agents-for-businesses-2025-2 - everything else is correct. J. P. Fridrich (talk) 04:43, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep 4-5 of the sources provided here have a broad topic overview independent of press-kits, blogs, interviews or just copying info from the website or other interviews. Business Insider in particular starts with overviewing the company with a focus more on its product - chatbots and agents. TechCrunch is mentioning a fundraising but it's in the end of the story, while 50+% is devoted to the analysis of the startup by the editor. Forbes article is not so long, but it gives the desired independent and focused attention to the topic, aside from some CEO comments. SiliconANGLE is pretty okay in terms of WP:CORPTRIV too, and while it's not a CNBC level, but I did find it widely used in many company pages for sourcing basic facts. My modest WP before showed the company is among the top 10 ai companies in the world by revenue per Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung [28], it was named number 6 global startup by Fast Company https://www.fastcompany.com/most-innovative-companies/list and it was overviewed here by The Information (website) [29]. And here is a big 2023 overview by Computerworld magazine [30] - it has a general description, analysis, 'how it works' section, a 'who are the competitors' section, and more. For instance, here is a quote where third party experts are commenting and analyzing: When asked whether enterprise users could trust results from Glean Chat, IDC research manager Hayley Sutherland said that companies should provide methods for understanding and explaining the results or recommendations generated by assistants like Glean Chat. Glean, according to Amalgam Insights’ principal analyst Hyoun Park, competes with the likes of Neeva, which was acquired by Snowflake. Therefore, there are sufficient reliable and non-routine sources in general and, in particular, in the time span of 2020-2025. J. P. Fridrich (talk) 05:14, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:34, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of populist political parties (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There is no clear criteria to define what constitutes a "populist party". As indicated in the Wikipedia article Populism, it is a "contested concept", "used to describe a broad and often contradictory array of movements and beliefs". Also, the term is usually derogatory. JohnMizuki (talk) 20:33, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete due to the wide and unclear definition of populism. These parties are not necessarily similar Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 21:30, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep: I added a Pew Center article that has an appendix that outlines a criterion used for identifying populist political parties. Thus, the concept behind this list meets notability for a list article. The article could use some expansion and more sources, but it appears that ample sources exist for its improvement. In addition, it is also possible to expand the lede to better explain the topic. Since Wikipedia's guidelines are to retain articles that have the potential to be improved, this article should be kept. Rublamb (talk) 02:46, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - This list can be only used for POV pushing as it seems. Segaton (talk) 08:36, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. WP:LISTCRIT says, Selection criteria (also known as inclusion criteria or membership criteria) should be unambiguous, objective, and supported by reliable sources." Even Rublamb's Pew source says:

    Although experts generally agree that populist political leaders or parties display high levels of anti-elitism, definitions of populism vary. We use three measures to classify populist parties: anti-elite ratings from the 2017 Chapel Hill Expert Survey (CHES), Inglehart and Norris’s populism party scale and The PopuList. We define a party as populist when at least two of these three measures classify it as such.

    There's an acknowledgement here that definitions vary. While they come up with a rubric for classification for research purposes, this is still somewhat arbitrary and can't really serve as the basis of a list article here. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 14:57, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - 'populist' is nowadays used so widely that it is impossible to have as criteria for listing. --Soman (talk) 11:04, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:35, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mëstiza (DJs) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Although the article includes some secondary sources, the content does not demonstrate sufficient encyclopedic notability, as it merely confirms the existence of the DJ duo without providing substantial information. Therefore, I am initiating this deletion discussion. CarlosEduardoPA (talk) 19:55, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Carlos, you added a not to the article to delete it, but it has been published for months and approved on the english side when it says you are an editor mainly for the Spanish wiki. The sources are from big newspapers and the artists are in line to others that have articles on the site. The writing and info is also relevant and they are on wikidata. San.alonso.r (talk) 20:12, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @San.alonso.r, how are you? First of all, thank you for notifying me on eswiki and for letting me know about your response here. I initiated this AfD for the reasons outlined in my initial message: from my perspective, the article in its current state does not clearly demonstrate encyclopedic notability, as it mainly points out the existence of the DJ duo. While it does include valid bibliographic references —as I mentioned in my first comment— I believe the writing does not effectively convey the level of notability being claimed. Of course, this is just my opinion, and that’s precisely why we open discussions like this —to hear the community’s views. In any case, I encourage you to continue improving and expanding the article so that its content more clearly reflects the notability you’re referring to. In fact, that was also the reason I added the 30-day template on eswiki. All the best. CarlosEduardoPA (talk) 20:23, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I made it short on purpose, but I'll add more info to it in the next 30 days San.alonso.r (talk) 20:31, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed it following your notes. Discography added and milestones San.alonso.r (talk) 22:06, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 23:36, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Centre County Christian Academy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Currently unsourced. Found one source in a book (Route 26 Transportation Improvements, Centre County; page 143), but its a passing mention. Otherwise cannot find sources. Roast (talk) 19:55, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Big City Greens season 1. Liz Read! Talk! 23:37, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Article seems to almost entirely be a plot summary. It only has one source, which is the episode itself. Nothing found via WP:BEFORE. (Oinkers42) (talk) 19:06, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete the image of the title card has a copyrighted image even though it was listed as Creative Commons license 2600:1003:B1B1:1960:BDDD:63DA:6256:410A (talk) 15:47, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Big City Greens season 1 not notable enough for standalone article. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:58, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge‎ to Zongshen. Liz Read! Talk! 23:38, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:GNG. I could not find sufficient sources to establish notability. Golem08 (talk) 18:00, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Swindon Borough Council. Liz Read! Talk! 23:39, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Forward Swindon (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable organization without any WP:SIGCOV or lasting impact. Could simply be mentioned in a sentence in Swindon Borough Council. ZimZalaBim talk 17:50, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - I did a quick search for additional sources and only found this one here.
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:41, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Trademark law (disambiguation) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This is not a proper use of a disambiguation title, as this is just a list of instances of one thing. BD2412 T 17:25, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(My native language is Japanese, so My English is not very good. If I said something offensive, that was not my intention and I am truly sorry.)
I apologize for creating an article that does not comply with the policy. My intention was to disambiguate the "Trademark Act" of various countries, e.g. Australia, Japan, and the UK. Since both "Act" and "Law" are wrote "法" (hō) in Japanese, I didn't know what the difference between them was. --Yukkuri Shambis (talk) 06:51, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Yukkuri Shambis: You have not said something offensive. This is just not what disambiguation pages are used for in Wikipedia. "Trademark law" is the name of the field of law, so instances of the practice of this field in different countries are just instances of the field. If there are different pieces of legislation named "Trademark Act", that would be a different matter, and something to run by User:Edcolins, who created the current redirect, Trademark Act. BD2412 T 16:54, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect‎ to Rama II Road#Ongoing construction projects and accidents. Choosing Redirection but the content is there if any editor wants to work on a Merge. Liz Read! Talk! 23:42, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

March 2025 Rama II Road bridge collapse (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:NOTNEWS. Point 4 of WP:EVENTCRITERIA - Routine kinds of news events (including most .. accidents ..) – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable. XYZ1233212 (talk) 17:22, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to 2024 United Kingdom riots. Liz Read! Talk! 23:44, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lucy Connolly (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I think WP:BLP1E applies. Suggest this page returns to being a redirect to 2024 United Kingdom riots. Paul W (talk) 16:40, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

&Retain – Strongly This is a highly significant, well-documented case that is likely to have lasting legal, social & political relevance. Whether one agrees with her actions or not is immaterial; the punishment handed down, the circumstances surrounding it, & the potential for future appeals or reinterpretation make this case one worth preserving in the encyclopaedic record. A balanced, neutrally written Wikipedia article offers a public reference point that is less susceptible to distortion by partisan interests. Without this page, discussion of the case risks being dominated by politicised narratives from both the left & right, with little accessible context for the general public. I seriously cannot belive why this is even up for discussion... — Preceding unsigned comment added by BiscuitsBeforeBias (talkcontribs) 10:59, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Retain – Strongly I agree that this is case has far-reaching implications (both legal and political) regarding the conceptof "free speech" and related matters. Whether or not people support or oppose the decision to jail this woman, I predict that the "Connolly affair" will be more than merely a foot-note in British history. I suspect that she will be referred to in future criminal cases, because what happened to her has definitely set a legal precedent in terms of sentencing and also parole eligibility. Frankly, there has been enormous public interest in the issues which the Connolly affair has raised. I therefore believe that it would be a big mistake to either redirect or delete this particular Wikipedia article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A0A:EF40:3AD:1101:6A23:B8CB:7BFD:EA14 (talk) 15:14, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 23:43, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dabrowski-Stefani tennis partnership (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Don’t think this is a particularly notable doubles pairing. Way below the bar that this wikiproject uses to start creating such articles. They only played together for not even four full seasons and didn’t even reach one grand slam final together. There are plenty of teams who won one WTA 1000 title together, that’s not something extraordinary. Tvx1 16:24, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

To be fair, this article started as a draft, it was reviewed by an editor and approved to be published as an article, then other editors from the tennis wiki saw it, helped to improve it and did not find anything wrong with it Haddad Maia fan (talk) Haddad Maia fan (talk) 16:30, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draft reviewers only tend to check whether it technically complies with the site’s requirements (prose quality and style, sourcing,…). They don’t judge whether the subject merits an article. Tvx1 17:09, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Draftify – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 21:08, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Svartner What's the point in draftifying this when the team no longer exists? Dabrowski is one half of a far more successful team with Erin Routliffe which has won Grand Slam titles and would be worthy of an article, while Stefani has had several different partners since this team ceased in 2023. They are very unlikely to get back together so nothing new will happen to add. Anxioustoavoid (talk) 08:32, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Dabrowski and Routliffe won one grand slam title, not plural. Even that pairing is questionable of meeting the bar. Dabrowski just doesn’t appear to be the sort of player who forms longterm double partnerships, but rather changes frequently. She won WTA 1000 or grand slam titles with five different players. Grand slam wise she has even been more succesful in mixed doubles. There are way more notable doubles partnerships than hers, like for instance the Macs (Paul McNamee & Peter McNamara), Bhupathi-Paes and Knowles-Nestor on the mens’ side or Hradecká & Hlaváčková, Errani & Vinci and Fernandéz & Zvereva on the women’s side or even Hingis & Paes and Court & Fletcher on the mixed teams’ side, none of which we actually have a dedicated article for. Tvx1 13:08, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Tvx1 I wasn't proposing an article on Dabrowski and Routliffe, I was merely pointing out they are more worthy of an article than the partnership being discussed in this AFD. As you will see below I have voted delete ie supporting your view. I really don't get why so many people on here are so aggressive. Anxioustoavoid (talk) 13:28, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    No agression intended whatsoever. Tvx1 16:01, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Anxioustoavoid If there is any user interested in improving the article properly, I think it is the best option. Svartner (talk) 00:10, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Quality is no the issue. The merit of the subject being worthy of an article is. They’re just not a special pairing. Tvx1 00:45, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete For all the reasons stated by the nominator. All the information in this article is already in, or could be added to, each of the two individual players articles. We are not talking about a team like the Bryan brothers or Krejčíková/Siniaková here. This pairing had moderate success and then split up like hundreds of other partnerships have and will in the future. Anxioustoavoid (talk) 08:38, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - a short-lived partnership that doesn't seem to have had a significant impact on tennis as a whole and doesn't otherwise meet WP:GNG as a stand-alone topic. Winning a WTA 1000 is a great achievement but we don't need an article on every single doubles pair that wins one. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 09:03, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Unable to find the necessary independent WP:SIGCOV for this subject to meet the WP:GNG, with only match results and primary sources referenced. Considering this team no longer exists, I don't see any reason to draftify this. Let'srun (talk) 19:25, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Withdrawn (non-admin closure) FlipandFlopped 19:16, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alena Kašová (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This is an athlete who competed in a single Olympic games as part of a larger team (1988 Women's Basketball). The Czech team finished 8th. WP:BEFORE search yields no WP:SIGCOV, and the only source in the article is a Sports Reference entry - considered trivial per WP:SPORTCRIT. FlipandFlopped 16:04, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to China at the 1988 Summer Olympics#Basketball. plicit 23:44, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Zhao Wei (basketball) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This athlete was a member of the Chinese Olympic Basketball team in 1988. Her team placed 6th. She did not compete again, and quite logically has no WP:SIGCOV. The only source in the article is a Sports Reference entry, which is trivial coverage per WP:SPORTCRIT. FlipandFlopped 15:56, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:13, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

International Muslim History Month (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article was AfD'ed in 2022 after the organization's first year. It was recreated recently with a lot more references but I don't think the organization or observance has sources for notability. There are 3 types of deficient sources on this article, first is non-independent sources like this one. The second is the plethora of sources talking about Canada like this one because it is a separate event that is held in October. The final group of poor sources are the ones that aren't about IMHM at all and they aren't used to support background information either, like this one.

Other evidence against this having notability includes this celebration in April and this one in March.

I would support a selected merge to International Hijab Day since it is the same founder. Moritoriko (talk) 04:07, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 11:34, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fassforward (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Besides WP:FORBESCON and non-notable awards, I'm not seeing any SIGCOV for this company. BuySomeApples (talk) 04:44, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Edits have been made including more sources to prove notability and the page is no longer an orphan. vfrank (talk) 11:56, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: sources are press releases, non-WP:RS (blogs, contributor posts, sponsored content, etc.), interviews or written by those affiliated with company. I don't think there is a single source that meets WP:NCORP much less multiple. S0091 (talk) 17:03, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy delete‎ per author request. plicit 11:47, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Xentra ERP Software GmbH (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I'm not convinced that this company meets our notability criteria for organisations, principally because the many sources either don't have significant coverage (e.g. StartupValley), are not reliable sources per Wikipedia's guidelines (e.g. Hallo Augsburg), or there's good reason to believe they're not independent of the subject (e.g. Business Insider) ... and I can't find any that really work here. Also the edit history of the user who created this page is ... more than a little bizarre (see their contributions and talk page). Graham87 (talk) 14:46, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 23:43, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Solar Panel Funding (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails notability. Sources are e.g. business directories. Wire723 (talk) 14:18, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to List of Judges Guild publications#Fantasy role-playing game supplements. plicit 14:17, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

World Map Set (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Seems to be a WP:FANCRUFT type article which does not actually pass WP:SIGCOV. Article as currently written only has a single source, and in WP:BEFORE, was not able to find better WP:RS. Iljhgtn (talk) 14:07, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 23:24, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ken Kimmelman (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Promotion for non notable filmmaker. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Laundry list of awards are not major. duffbeerforme (talk) 11:46, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]


As the creator of this article, I respectfully disagree with the assertion that international awards are not significant. The Cannes Film Festival, in particular, is an industry benchmark. Emmy awards are notable as well. The international honors Ken Kimmelman's films have received reflect the high regard in which his work is held. Meanwhile, I see that 1) the article needs updating; 2) I'm happy to add more reliable sources to support the notability of this filmmaker; 3) there are too many awards, and they are listed chronologically, which makes it difficult to distinguish the most significant, so I will revise, edit and update.Trouver (talk)
Without any sourcing to back the claims up, you could say anything about this person. We have no way of showing what's true and what's bunk. Oaktree b (talk) 14:49, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:SOAP, WP:COAT, WP:SPAM, and WP:MILL. We are not a soap box, and this page slips in advocacy for aesthetic realism with unnecessarily large number of references to the same. It's spam masquerading as references. Getting into Cannes Film Festival Short Film Corner is surprisingly easy: my partner got in with a film produced with less than 5 figures. As the wealthiest man in the world is out to ruin us financially, we don't need to stray from our very limited charitable mission into advocating other world views. Bearian (talk) 18:34, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have revised the article in keeping with WP guidelines. Trouver (talk) 16:42, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Your bio here says you've written a Good Article, I would expect you to understand the issues here... Where is the sourcing to show us notability? You won't get a Good Article with what you've provided here... Oaktree b (talk) 14:52, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete: Zero coverage in RS found... This is an interview [35]. Source 8 is a RS, but I'm not sure making the background animation for a play in the 70s is enough for notability, when that's literally all there is for sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 14:45, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Almost a hundred awards listed, yet zero media coverage... This does not compute. Where are the citations to support this multiple award-winning individual? This almost feels like a HOAX. Stanley Kubrick doesn't have this many awards. Oaktree b (talk) 14:48, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per Bearian's reasoning. Best, GPL93 (talk) 17:57, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: I can assure everyone that the Hot Afternoons awards are real. It's very unfortunate that the years were not given (next to the award names in column 5), with no reliable sources to verify. In its present state, I vote to delete. Lore E. Mariano (talk) 19:39, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure)Suriname0 (talk) 15:47, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bernard J. Schaffer (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I'm not seeing a pass of WP:NAUTHOR here. Most (all?) works seem to be self-published, and I wasn't able to immediately find significant reviews or other coverage. Outside of the authorship criteria, I was unable to identify any WP:SIGCOV to meet WP:GNG. No obvious redirect targets or other WP:ATD. Suriname0 (talk) 13:50, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

keep for pete's sake, we listed almost a dozen reviews in the AfD this past January, are we simply ignoring them? Oaktree b (talk) 14:58, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No, this is my mistake; I hadn't noticed the prior AFD when I nominated it, I just saw a completely unsourced promotional article about a self-published author and failed to find any of the reviews referenced in the previous AfD in my WP:BEFORE. I Withdraw the nomination. (For the record, it is a travesty that we're keeping this horrible BLP violation.) Again, my apologies for lack of due diligence and not searching for prior AfDs. Suriname0 (talk) 15:45, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:17, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Copper Creek (California) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There are several rivers with this name but the subject of this article seems to be one that does not exist. The coordinates of the mouth don't match the claimed location, are in the wrong county, would make it much longer than claimed, and would require it to cross the Salmon River. Indian Creek (https://edits.nationalmap.gov/apps/gaz-domestic/public/search/names/234068) is where Copper Creek was claimed to be in the list of rivers of California, but it is several miles west of Salmon Mountain and does not meet another river before the Klamath. Some features named in the article appear to not exist. There are GNIS references but the IDs don't exist and there are no entries with the same name and similar coordinates. I couldn't check the first two works cited but the third does not mention a Copper Creek in California, and discusses the Big Sur River on the pages mentioned. Peter James (talk) 13:21, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - creek does not exist. Simple as that. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 02:30, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:19, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ubong Essien CSP (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Bypassing WP:AFC twice, no indication of any notability in Wikipedia terms. Theroadislong (talk) 13:14, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete. Simple copy and paste from draftspace — GhostInTheMachine talk to me 13:31, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your feedback. I understand the importance of adhering to Wikipedia's notability guidelines and appreciate your concerns regarding the article. I would like to respectfully clarify that the subject has received significant coverage in multiple reliable, independent sources and holds recognitions such as national awards, sustained media appearances, and leadership roles within notable institutions. I am currently working to further improve citations and structure the article to better reflect Wikipedia standards. I welcome any specific suggestions you might have on how to strengthen the notability and sourcing in line with Wikipedia’s expectations. Thank you. Thekkagram (talk) 09:48, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete pure vanispamcruftisement with no evidence of notability, not in the draft and not to be found by searching. (I reckon this is G11'able, but also happy to let the discussion run its course if preferred.) --DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:35, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, no evidence of secondary coverage of notability, even if there were, there is no worthwhile content to preserve in the face of TNT. Bobby Cohn 🍁 (talk) 14:40, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Bobby Cohn I love the idea of perverse content! 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 17:06, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Timtrent it has been 1 0 days since I have made a spelling mistake. I've updated my response for clarity.Bobby Cohn 🍁 (talk) 17:12, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Keep: I respectfully submit that Ubong Essien, CSP meets the notability requirements set forth in WP:BIO and WP:GNG.
    Mr. Essien holds the distinction of being the first and only Certified Speaking Professional (CSP) in West Africa, an internationally recognized credential awarded by the National Speakers Association (NSA) in the United States. This is a significant achievement in the global speaking industry.
    Furthermore, he has received substantial coverage in independent and reliable sources, including:
    1. An in-depth feature and interview in New Telegraph Nigeria on his contributions to professional speaking and communication development.
    2. Articles in BusinessDay Nigeria and other respected publications highlighting his role as the founder of the School of Eloquence, which has trained professionals across various sectors.
    3. Guest expert appearances on national television, including TVC News and Channels TV, where he discusses communication, leadership, and personal development.
    These demonstrate both notability and lasting impact within his field. I am currently working on improving the article’s sourcing, tone, and compliance with Wikipedia guidelines, and I remain open to feedback from the community. Thank you for your consideration. Thekkagram (talk) 09:42, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Fails WP:BIO. Vanity piece. WP:ADMASQ 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 17:06, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Keep: I believe the article on Ubong Essien, CSP meets the notability criteria outlined in WP:BIO and WP:GNG.
    Mr. Essien is the first and only Certified Speaking Professional (CSP) in West Africa, an international designation awarded by the National Speakers Association (NSA) in the United States, a notable achievement in the global professional speaking community.
    He has been featured in reputable Nigerian media, including:
    1. A published interview in New Telegraph Nigeria discussing his professional journey and contributions to public speaking.
    2. Coverage in BusinessDay and other national outlets highlighting his work as the founder of the School of Eloquence in Lagos, which has trained numerous professionals.
    3. Appearances on TVC News and Channels TV, where he has been invited as a subject-matter expert on public speaking and leadership communication.
    These sources are independent and reliable, and I am actively working to improve citations and formatting to meet Wikipedia’s standards. I welcome suggestions for improving the article and ensuring neutrality. Thank you 102.88.111.3 (talk) 09:34, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: The fact that I had to remove creator Thekkagram (talk · contribs)'s response to the nomination from the article itself is, on top of the already-mentioned issues, an strong indicator that this does not come (or have any realistic chance of coming) anywhere near meeting any policy or guideline, much less the GNG. WCQuidditch 19:49, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Per Nomination, Fails WP:BIO Destinyokhiria (talk) 21:43, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Keep: I respectfully submit that Ubong Essien, CSP meets the notability requirements set forth in WP:BIO and WP:GNG.
    Mr. Essien holds the distinction of being the first and only Certified Speaking Professional (CSP) in West Africa, an internationally recognized credential awarded by the National Speakers Association (NSA) in the United States. This is a significant achievement in the global speaking industry.
    Furthermore, he has received substantial coverage in independent and reliable sources, including:
    1. An in-depth feature and interview in New Telegraph Nigeria on his contributions to professional speaking and communication development.
    2. Articles in BusinessDay Nigeria and other respected publications highlighting his role as the founder of the School of Eloquence, which has trained professionals across various sectors.
    3. Guest expert appearances on national television, including TVC News and Channels TV, where he discusses communication, leadership, and personal development.
    These demonstrate both notability and lasting impact within his field. I am currently working on improving the article’s sourcing, tone, and compliance with Wikipedia guidelines, and I remain open to feedback from the community. Thank you for your consideration. Thekkagram (talk) 09:41, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for taking the time to review the article. I appreciate your concerns regarding notability and understand the importance of aligning with Wikipedia’s guidelines. I would like to clarify that the subject has been featured in several reliable and independent sources, and has received notable recognitions including national awards, consistent media appearances, and leadership roles in reputable institutions. I’m currently working on improving the article by strengthening the citations and enhancing its alignment with Wikipedia’s content standards. I’m open to any guidance or suggestions you may have on how best to meet the notability criteria. Thank you. Thekkagram (talk) 09:51, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please don't use AI to communicate here! Theroadislong (talk) 09:53, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your feedback and for highlighting your concerns. I fully understand the need to meet Wikipedia’s notability requirements. I’d like to note that the subject has received attention from multiple credible and independent sources, in addition to earning national awards, maintaining regular media visibility, and holding key leadership positions. I’m currently working to improve the article by adding stronger references and refining the content to better meet Wikipedia’s standards. I welcome any suggestions you may have to help ensure the article meets the necessary criteria. Thank you. Thekkagram (talk) 09:53, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please don't use AI to communicate here! Theroadislong (talk) 09:54, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was ‎ keep, withdrawn. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:10, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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This article is sourced solely to three obituaries (which can't be used to establish notability). Almost everything a Gsearch finds on the subject was written immediately after the subject's death. Happy to see it sourced, but right now, it lacks sufficient sourcing to pass NOTE, V, or ANYBIO. BusterD (talk) 13:13, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:16, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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With only one match at professional level, this person is certainly non-notable. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 13:03, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:16, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Soft deleted, then draft denied. Original AFD rationale, which I agree with: Mentions, interviews, and unreliable sources (mainly WP:NEWSORGINDIA) is all I can find. Fails WP:ANYBIO and WP:GNG. I also suspect WP:UPE. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:33, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging the only participant of the previous AFD: @CNMall41: - UtherSRG (talk) 12:36, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - As per the first discussion. Nothing I can find since the last which shows notability. Would suggest salting the title based on the second AfD and the creator objecting to the WP:ATD they were afforded prior to moving back to mainspace. --CNMall41 (talk) 16:26, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:15, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Played less than 10 matches for USL Championship. Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 11:28, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:15, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Previous deleted in 2013 failing in WP:FOOTY. Clearly fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 11:17, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:14, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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A team that played a single match in 2017 but never officially represented Fernando de Noronha in any competition. Its haven't the same historical relevance like the old Brazilian state teams. Clearly fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 10:58, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Owen× 11:33, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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4 years ago a contested WP:PROD, contested, brought to AfD, no comments, soft deleted, and then WP:REFUNDed. The same criteria apply today: he's a guy on a couple lists who has had some jobs. The article relies very heavily on things that are not WP:RS, including quotes from the subject, and even cites to his social media accounts.

Substantially all coverage, including that which I searched for on news sites and Proquest, relates to the companies mentioned and not to him. Of 24 references, 4 are social media affiliated with the subject, and 5 are lists of names. The singular remaining reference that is actually about him is [38] which is a local newspaper profile taken when he was a teenager. The awards, similarly, are not significant enough to meet WP:ANYBIO. FalconK (talk) 10:36, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. plicit 14:22, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails Wikipedia's notability guidelines for organizations. The article does not establish significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. Most references are either primary (press releases, staff bios) or routine mentions. Notability appears to stem from affiliations rather than substantial impact or coverage. Garypetersthefourth (talk) 14:30, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Filbrandt, John; Leins, David (2025-02-06). "What are tariffs? And how could they affect consumers?". The Metro. Detroit Public Radio. Archived from the original on 2025-02-09.
  2. ^ Scola, Nancy (2023-04-21). "Washington's angriest progressive is winning over conservatives – and baffling old allies". Politico. Archived from the original on 2023-04-21.
  3. ^ McGee, William J. (2023-01-13). "It's time to finally fix air travel". Opinion. The New York Times. Archived from the original on 2023-01-13.
  4. ^ Stoller, Matt (2023-07-28). "How to break Up Disney". Opinion. Politico. Archived from the original on 2023-07-28.
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The result was no consensus‎. The discussion has run out of steam and I don't think we're going to reach an agreement on this. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:59, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NCORP. Deleted at this discussion but then recreated under a name variant (NewCleo) before being moved to Newcleo. Clearly WP:COI editing and likely PAID. As far as notability, the only thing happening since last AfD was an agreement it entered into with another company. However, all press is routine and falls short of WP:ORGCRIT. CNMall41 (talk) 05:35, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Preliminary keep based on quickly reviewing my previous comments. In my opinion, the previous AfD discussion was highly subjective but with the quality and number of article supporters it could have easily resulted in keep instead of redirect. I am sure those who voted in opposition will again state otherwise, but again the judgement is highly subjective. However I have not reviewed the latest version and I am no longer very active in AfD, but want to enter this vote to forestall a procedural close based on my previous support. - Indefensible (talk) 06:18, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Proposal: delete almost all leaving a stub and slowly add from the deleted text (recoverable from the page history) or new independent content, to rebuild the page without the promo. --Robertiki (talk) 10:56, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Building the page and showing notability are not the same. There are a lot of sources that can be used to build the page, but if it isn't notable, no amount of rebuilding will work. Out of the long list of sources on the talk page, can you provide the list (here on this AfD so we can all assess them) of sources that show notability? The ones that you believe meet WP:ORGCRIT? --CNMall41 (talk) 15:44, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete This is a company therefore GNG/WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. Robertiki, I've reviewed the 28 sources you've posted on the Talk page. As a comment, WP:REFBOMBING won't endear you to contributors at AfD - you only need to identify a minimum of two sources that meet the criteria. Posting 28 sources often demonstrates that the editor is not familiar with GNG/WP:NCORP criteria and is possibly of the opinion that weight is given to a volume of sources (which is not the case). I considered posting a detailed review of each source here, but since most fail for the same reason(s) a summary will suffice. As a simple and easily-understood rule, articles that rely entirely on quotations from execs, or other information provided by the company such as financial forecasts, forward-looking aspirational statements and announcements fail the criteria as those articles are not independent, regardless of whether the information has simply been merely reworded. If the article does not contain original/independent analysis/fact checking/investigation content, the it has no independent content which meets the criteria and fails ORGIND. Reviewing the articles, searching for independent content, proved futile. Time and again the references regurgitate company announcements and executive quotations or are mere mentions. Not a single reference meets GNG/NCORP criteria. If anyone finds a source they believe meets the criteria, do everyone a favour and post a link and also identify the specific page/paragraph which contains the in-depth independent content. HighKing++ 12:40, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Continuing from the previous AfD discssion, I still disagree with HighKing's evaluation of the sources. For example, looking in particular at the article by Le Monde https://www.lemonde.fr/en/europe/article/2023/03/21/nuclear-power-newcleo-is-on-its-way-to-becoming-europe-s-best-funded-start-up_6020212_143.html, which HighKing previously described as merely a "puff profile" that is "regurgitating positive information about the company" based on a company announcement https://web.archive.org/web/20230320160310/https://www.newcleo.com/press-releases/newcleo-launches-equity-raise-of-up-to-e1bn-for-its-unique-circular-next-generation-nuclear-energy-solution/. HighKing's description is not accurate in my opinion. The article by Le Monde states (via translation from the original in French):

    The gamble of the Turin physicist Stefano Buono, founder of Newcleo, is to take up a technology well-known to the French, that of the Superphénix fast-breeder reactor which was abandoned in 1997 by the French government after innumerable technical problems, an exorbitant cost and considerable opposition of environmentalists who came to power in the government of France's former prime minister Lionel Jospin.

    This is highlighting multiple risks in Newcleo's business model and is NOT mentioned anywhere in Newcleo's company announcement. Which is to say it is independent analysis providing journalistic context. Furthermore, the article by Le Monde mentions the competitive nature of the industry with "nearly 80 start-ups around the world" and highlighting 2 other specific competitors, Hexana and Stellaria, which again are not mentioned anywhere in Newcleo's announcement. Therefore HighKing's description of the source is not correct, and therefore his analysis is flawed in my opinion.
    On a side note, when there is deadlock with arguments such as the above going unanswered as in the previous AfD, the correct procedural outcome should be to close as no consensus. - Indefensible (talk) 18:01, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • The reason why your previous post went unanswered is because the AfD was closed less than 6 hours later. The previous AfD demonstrated your unfamiliarity with how GNG/NCORP guidelines are applied, and from your comment above, it doesn't appear that you've absorbed or accepted any of what was said previously. I commented previously on the puff profile which appeared in Le Monde - if you honestly can identify this as relying entirely on information provided by the company with zero "independent content" by way of original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject, then we can simply agree to disagree and let others form their own opinion with overwhelming the discussion. HighKing++ 12:45, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree, we can agree to disagree. I am reminded why I do not think AfD is the best way to spend my time. Cheers. - Indefensible (talk) 14:40, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have commented the sources list in the talk page, striking sources not to be considered. I am also mumbling if we should ask if editor User:Giovagua is to be blocked for circumventing the Newcleo page redirect with a similar name (NewCleo). Beside che correct title should be newcleo with first letter lowcase. --Robertiki (talk) 04:42, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't think you grasp "independent content" if you didn't consider striking articles which *rely* entirely on company announcements. Rewording an announcement but otherwise regurgitating the exact same content is not "independent content". HighKing++ 12:45, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The correct outcome would be to adhere to the result of the previous discussion, and the correct result of that was to exclude any sources where there is doubt based on what is explicitly stated in the relevant guideline (WP:SIRS). If the evaluation of best sources that could be found are so subjective, then find better sources. I was considering doing another source search to look at things, but if this is the argument then it would seem to be a waste of time. Alpha3031 (tc) 10:42, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I attempted to do so but it was objected to. Seems like a waste of AfD since the recreation was circumventing the previous discussion (under different name variation to avoid detection). --CNMall41 (talk) 15:56, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Because it apparently went through review and was approved per the above, so this is entirely appropriate. - Indefensible (talk) 14:54, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The previous AfD would have gone to another relist had it not been at the limit per the admin's comment, and the final relist had said keep or no consensus was likely; there was not enough support to delete, and then it was redirected (which is not delete). Based on the ongoing argument, that could have been no consensus. As I said before, it was highly subjective and hardly a conclusive precedent to use now. - Indefensible (talk) 14:43, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You could have requested deletion review at that time. I do not see where someone did so the results are the results and speculation on what "would have" happened are irrelevant. --CNMall41 (talk) 15:56, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I could have but honestly I did not see the point. And I do not currently plan to participate in AfD further, although it does seem to be largely the same familiar names and I do appreciate the ping. It might be the best use of time for some but not for me. Take care. - Indefensible (talk) 16:09, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The company Newcleo is the subject of significant public discussion due to its proposed small modular nuclear reactor project of type LFR-AS-30 in Savigny-en-Véron and Beaumont-en-Véron, France. On June 4, 2025, the Commission nationale du débat public (CNDP) announced a public debate to be held over two months, as documented in their official session report (CNDP Session Report). Additional coverage in reliable sources, such as La Nouvelle République, confirms the project's significance and public interest. The debate is expected to generate substantial material from both proponents and opponents, ensuring sufficient verifiable information to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines (WP:GNG). Alternatively, if the article's focus on Newcleo is deemed too narrow, redirecting to or creating a broader article about the nuclear reactor project in Savigny-en-Véron could be considered, incorporating Newcleo's role within it. Hektor (talk) 06:39, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Self-published sources (such as submissions to a inquiry) are not typically considered reliable sources, because people can say whatever they want in them. "Verifiable information" is typically implied to be material capable of being verified in Wikipedia:Reliable sources, not whatever the public wants to say when they get the mandatory chance to say stuff about the government doing things. You may choose to make an argument otherwise, but it would be ideal if the argument were actually made, as to why this inquiry would be different, or why those sources would actually meet the criteria, so the rest of us don't have to guess. Alpha3031 (tc) 16:00, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I can't speak for Hektor of course, but I didn't think he was implying that the inquiry submission was a secondary source. The point (at least as I see it) is that the fact that public inquiries are being held, or that a Generic Design Assessment is under way[39], or that land is being purchased[40][41], are signs that the company is making progress towards actually building an SMR. That is definitely a notable achievement, even if the sources that document it don't individually meet all the WP:ORGCRIT requirements. Rosbif73 (talk) 07:03, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Doing stuff is not a substitute for having independent coverage, addressing the company itself directly (not, e.g., the state of the industry more broadly) and in-detail (rather than, the routine coverage as listed at WP:CORPROUTINE), that we would actually be permitted to base an article upon. Literally every single start up company on the planet makes progress towards some "notable achievement", that's how they get money. Doing interesting business stuff prevents an A7, it doesn't mean we can or should write an article based on corporate announcements and routine coverage. Alpha3031 (tc) 11:18, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Indefensible, Hektor and Robertiki have highlighted several reliable independent secondary sources that lead to a WP:NCORP pass. Rosbif73 (talk) 09:18, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Can you specifically call out the one(s) you feel meet WP:ORGCRIT? Robertiki listed a wall of text on the talk page and still has not presented the ones they feel meet ORGCRIT despite two requests to do so. Indefensible relies on the same referencing from the previous AfD discussion which resulted in delete. The two they point out above specifically are this routine announcement and this piece (the second may be ORGCRIT but it is brief so unsure if others would agree it meets WP:CORPDEPTH). Hektor provided this source which is clearly a routine announcement.--CNMall41 (talk) 19:05, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Be accurate, the previous AfD resulted in redirect (although without much consensus in my opinion, per above), not a deletion. They are not the same. If you want to nitpick about technicalities then you should make sure to hold yourself to the same standard.
My point about the Le Monde source is the argument for deletion was based on flawed analysis. It did not result in a consensus for deletion. So you should not be using it to form an incorrect narrative here. - Indefensible (talk) 16:52, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. The article is very poorly written and its creator Robertiki passes the UPE duck test. Also, it's not surprising that so many accounts suddenly chime in to argue in favor of the alleged high-quality sources, despite the fact that the citations are so terrible that any knowledgable Wikipedian will immediately notice that the sources weren't assessed at all. I strongly believe that the subject is notable, simply because the company's size allows the presumption that sufficient secondary-source coverage exists. However, writing a new article from scratch appears like a much easier task than fixing this UPE trash. I strongly recommend an administrator block the creator's account and restore the previous revision of the article. There is no need to continue this exhausting and lengthy debate any further. --2A02:3031:210:8CCA:95:DA75:A399:B87 (talk) 07:18, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    While the article clearly needs reworking, I'm not convinced that we're at the WP:TNT stage! But in any case, could you please clarify your !vote? Restoring a previous revision is not compatible with deletion! Rosbif73 (talk) 10:12, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The article was a redirect before. I don't mind if the result of this AfD discussion is deletion or soft deletion, but either way, we are way beyond WP:TNT. --2A02:3031:216:A608:341B:2930:CF04:CC23 (talk) 13:15, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    A little ironic for a brand new IP account with no history to complain about "so many accounts suddenly chime in to argue," no?
    Doubly ironic to complain about "knowledgeable Wikipedian[s]" when those Wikipedians have accounts that are over a decade old.
    If you believe the article subject is notable and the article should be reset, then I suggest you vote for draftification rather than deletion. - Indefensible (talk) 16:48, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If we are pointing out irony, once could say it is ironic that a vote for this page came in within 45 minutes from an account that had not edited in a month but was heavily involved in the voting of the last AfD. Irony is everywhere but does not discount a vote. --CNMall41 (talk) 16:45, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's not irony, you literally pinged me. Which I appreciate. - Indefensible (talk) 18:36, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And you just happened to be on Wikipedia at the time despite not editing for a month. Again, irony. Focus on the content of the vote, not the fact it's an IP.--CNMall41 (talk) 18:49, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It just shows that I am still active on Wikipedia despite not editing as much. I did not say the vote should not be counted, I just said the content was a little ironic. By the way, they said the subject is notable, so the vote is a little inconsistent in my opinion. But enough of this. - Indefensible (talk) 19:04, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think my point is you can have pointed it out without pointing them out. The vote has several inconsistencies and any "irony" isn't necessary to point out as experienced users can see it already. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:20, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Extended content
1.1: Newcleo wants to build their reactor near the existing Chinon reactor — I don't really think this can reasonably be considered secondary by any metric
1.2: They can do it only after they get approval. The investment is more than 1 billion. — Maybe if we really stretch the meaning of secondary here.
2.1–2: A fifth reactor at Chinon? That's what they want. — Unless we want to claim counting to 5 is deep analysis, this would seem to be merely relaying the company stating what they want.
2.3: They have been looking for land to do what their company is for. — Yeah? Surprise! This is like, the most WP:CORPROUTINE sentence possible.
3.1: Last October we wrote that they contacted the local/municipal government. — I'm really not sure if I need to say anything here, seems self-explanatory
3.2: In January they sent a letter to the mayor telling him they want to build stuff there. — While we're getting the steps of literally any company doing local government approval stuff will need to do in excruciating detail, there's nothing that exactly screams WP:CORPDEPTH or WP:SECONDARY here.
4.1: Their 30 MW reactor is a prototype for 200 MW reactors, compare the current Chinon reactors, 900 MW, operated by EDF — This is definitely secondary. We can say small modular reactors are small.
5.1–3: LNR contacted Newcleo, who said "jobs and growth". There was a meeting in January. 1.2 billion! (if approved) Could see light of day by 2031 — Yeah, the date is nice, but other than that and the quote, it pretty much just repeats the intro.
  • I'm sorry if I'm hammering this point too much at this point, but we're really trying to hype up a company that has a project that might, if approved, possibly break ground 6 years in the future. I don't know if I'd fully agree with HighKing's analysis that the LM article (which is, in fact, ProQuest item 2788723615) is fully derived from company announcements, but honestly, just reading the article, it's a generic "small modular reactors, aren't they neat?" Not very much direct or in detail at all. At best it's marginal instead of a clear fail, if we acquiesce to the "it's subjective" argument and waive NCORP's If the suitability of a source is in doubt, it is better to exercise caution and exclude the source for the purposes of establishing notability. And that's the best source, or the best that can be found anyway.
    The Telegraph article, which was the other one raised by Oaktree in the previous AFD, has approximately zilch about Newcleo that was not directly tagged as a quote from Buono, the CEO. Yeah, it helps put the company in context, because the article is only about the industry and SMRs. Editors wishing to retain the article been haphazardly presenting sources yes, but if the sources presented thus far are the best we have, and I see no evidence that contradicts that, then the degree to which we'd have to stretch NCORP (are we seriously to the point of considering articles whose list of authors are clearly marked with newcleo srl and newcleo sa affiliations?) would be almost unrecognisable. At that point, what even is the point of having guidelines? Delete. Alpha3031 (tc) 15:16, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    There's a lot of coverage on this company and it comes from reputable sources, the question is whether enough of it passes the standards of Wikipedia for inclusion.
    Lo Spiffero has a series of articles on Newcleo. https://www.lospiffero.com/ls_risultati_ricerca.php?ls_trova=newcleo I think in particular the article https://www.lospiffero.com/ls_article.php?id=88951 should count. This is not "regurgitation" or PR from the company, actually the coverage seems fairly negative. - Indefensible (talk) 17:48, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Do you have another two? I'm still concerned about the "directly and in detail" part of things considering how the bulk of the article seems to be focused on discussing generalities about small modular reactors, and thus would (along with another two) establish notability of that but not necessarily a specific company producing them, but it's certainly better than the LNR article, as much as I consider the bar to be in the floor with that one, and possibly the Telegraph one as well at first glance. No offence, but there is some point where another "there are definitely sources, I just can't fit three of them and an explanation of how they all meet all four criteria in this margin because it's too narrow to contain them" stops being convincing. Alpha3031 (tc) 10:00, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus‎. My view of this debate is that a) not enough people have voiced viewpoints to give a clear overall consensus of the sources and b) those that have have not been polite about it. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:56, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Non notable film festival. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Notability is not inherited from people they give awards to. PR Articles congratulating a single film/actor winning are not independent coverage about the festival. "an IMDb award-qualifying film festival". Puffery that screams promotion. see also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cult Critic Movie Awards, noting this source from the org that runs that similar "festival". (Funny how a 2018 festival win is supposedly sourced to a 1999 book review.) duffbeerforme (talk) 08:11, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:21, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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22 professional appearances before retiring. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 09:54, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per the above. Surayeproject3 (talk) 03:03, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:21, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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25 professional appearances before retiring. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 09:49, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:21, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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A 29 game professional career is some, but he seems to have retired after 2006. Fails GNG. RossEvans19 (talk) 09:38, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. plicit 14:21, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Souleye (hip-hop artist) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Previous AfD closed as no consensus two years ago, but looking back at it I really think it was close to deletion and deserves to be relitigated. On top of the lack of sourcing at the time, additional sources presented in that discussion were rejected for either being about a different person or being poorly written and possibly sponsored/otherwise biased to a degree that it shouldn't be usable. There has been no substantial expansion of the article since (in fact, it has actually gotten marginally smaller, though not in any ways that particularly matter), and its notability status doesn't appear to have changed in the slightest. I support either deletion or redirecting to Alanis Morissette#Relationships with {{r from spouse}}, whichever is preferred, but either way I don't think this article should remain. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 09:26, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 14:22, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of Slovenian economists (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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List is a less extensive fork of Category: Slovenian economists. There is no additional sources cited to give the list SIGCOV. Pragmatic Puffin (talk) 08:38, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:19, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Sources were created by László Kelemen. Two are the same and one is his lawfirm. How is this notable? Earth605 (talk) 05:36, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:25, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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This article fails to meet the notability guidelines as outlined in WP:N. The subject is not the focus of any significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. The few mentions that do exist are passing and do not provide the depth of material necessary to support a standalone article. Most of the sources cited are either not about the subject or use it only as a brief example without substantial analysis or dedicated discussion. Given the lack of notability and meaningful coverage, the article does not justify its own space. Deletion or merging into a broader, more relevant topic (if applicable) would be more appropriate. Retaining it in its current state risks violating Wikipedia’s standards. Jaunpurzada (talk) 21:15, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NOTSTATS. Geschichte (talk) 07:28, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Little to no coverage in WP:RS. The only source that substantially treats the topic is the profile article [51]. The article itself is likely a permanent stub, and was originally a promotional article created by an SPA. FalconK (talk) 06:46, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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No evidence of notability. Search through Proquest, Google News, and other internet searches yield no apparent coverage other than in connection with his job. While frequently quoted in interviews, there is little to no notability-establishing 3rd party coverage in reliable sources treating him personally. Award lists do not contribute to notability. Relevant information here is already included in articles about the companies he's founded, and founding companies does not confer personal notability in and of itself (not in WP:BIO). The article is congratulatory in tone and it has not been possible to improve it using WP:RS since 2011 due to a lack of relevant sources. The article was created by an account which has solely edited pages about this and closely related topics. FalconK (talk) 06:29, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to KDE Software Compilation 4#Visual. No delete or keep, but a good common ground for a redirect (non-admin closure) Cinder painter (talk) 06:43, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails the notability guideline for web content. All of the current sources are either primary sources or unreliable sources like blog posts. A quick search for more sourcing didn't turn up anything. TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 06:08, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I haven't been keeping an eye on this AfD, but I'd be perfectly alright with a redirect or selective merge to a broader article if there's consensus for it. TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 02:56, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect‎ to Tech N9ne discography. per redirect votes arguments (non-admin closure) Cinder painter (talk) 06:58, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Calm Before the Storm (Tech N9ne album) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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Tech N9ne's first two studio albums are not notable by themselves. Looking at the sources for both pages, it's just mainly Amazon and iTunes, that's it. It's best if they both are redirected to Tech N9ne discography, as both of them fail WP:NALBUM. UnregisteredBiohazard (what i dowhat did i do now?) 03:36, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) Agent 007 (talk) 17:40, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Declined prod. A search for sources including under the shorter name " Anneewakee Treatment Center" only yielded 2 google news hits and directory listings in google books. Fails WP:ORG. LibStar (talk) 00:53, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Draftify‎. asilvering (talk) 02:38, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:SPORTSPERSON and GNG. No significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. Article consists of only a few sentences, with minimal content and poor sourcing. Subject appears not to meet the notability criteria for sports figures. InvisibleUser909 (talk) 22:59, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, he was on the "Most Wanted Articles" list, but whatever. Hi I'm Sailing427, but you can call me Sailing. Look at my profile. (talk) 02:11, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 05:08, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The two sources appear to be written by the same author which would make them one source for notability. I am open to a redirect or a merge but I couldn't figure out where it would fit best. As for a before search, I have found numerous forum posts talking about it but that is it. Moritoriko (talk) 02:32, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to List of Tasmanian representative cricketers#Players whose debut was between 1969 and 1985. Owen× 11:36, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Doesn't have enough reliable / significant sources. They are mainly stat pages. Darkm777 (talk) 01:41, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) Cinder painter (talk) 08:24, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Doesn't have enough reliable / significant sources. They are mainly stat pages. Darkm777 (talk) 01:47, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:00, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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This article is about an anonymous person, with the only source being an interview (cited on the publisher’s website). The article mainly consists of a long quote from a book review. I couldn’t find any independent in-depth sources to establish notability for this person. Blackballnz (talk) 00:49, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. The sole !vote to keep relies on an incorrect interpretation of WP:N. Owen× 11:38, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Almost all of the players in this list are not notable. Louis (talk) (contribs) 15:01, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is false. They are notable in so far as they record who played for a major club side, some of which end up playing for other teams. If that information is not recorded then it is lost, making it impossible to track player development and also maintain the history of a significant rugby club. For me this is like removing films from a director's filmography because they are not critically acclaimed. Whybeetoo (talk) 18:30, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:RU/N they are not notable. "Youth players are not notable unless they satisfy one of the statements above, or if they can be shown to meet the wider requirements of WP:GNG." See Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby union/Notability#Biographies. Louis (talk) (contribs) 20:10, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
But these are not Biographies? And so that section doesnt apply. This is a page that allows the tracking of player development over an extended period, allowing a reader to understand the health of a junior system. Its not a list of biographies. Secondly these are not youth players, these are professionally contracted rugby players, all above the age of 18. Whybeetoo (talk) 21:00, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also, WP:SIGCOV. A google search of "Sharks Junior Squad" reveals minimal results with all those relating to this topic being from primary sources. A new catogary would be better suited for this ie: Category:Sharks (rugby union) junior players (or similar) for any players that pass GNG of WP:RU/N Louis (talk) (contribs) 22:07, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If you google the component teams of the Junior Squad you get substantial mentions from multiple sources. This includes multiple independently sourced press coverage. Sharks u21, u20, u19 etc. The Junior Squad is just a catch all term for players contracted but eligible for these teams. The mentions are not trivial or in passing, they are articles specifically written about these teams and often these players. Whybeetoo (talk) 22:43, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete This is mostly fancruft which fails WP:GNG and WP:NLIST. The sourcing present is just team announcements for junior rugby competitions. Perhaps a small separate section on Sharks (Currie Cup) could be added to mention the U21 side and players representing their county at U20 level but this is complete overkill. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 13:07, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Please detail how it fails WP:GNG and WP:NLIST so your claim can be evaluated. Not all Wikipedia content requires individual notability if the topic itself has informative or encyclopedic value. Squad tracking serves a research and documentation role akin to sports archives or player pathway databases. Whybeetoo (talk) 09:07, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Fails WP:GNG as there is no sustained coverage of the sides and the players that partake. Fails WP:NLIST as it's not discussed in reliable sourcing similar to GNG. If Wikipedia was a sports oracle of SA Rugby oracle then could perhaps be included, but this is just fancruft for me with no encyclopedic value. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 09:51, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete: as others have said above this feels very unencyclopaedic, if this was an article about the junior squads and their current members and any notable former members then mayyyyyybe. Compare to the page List of FC Barcelona players, a much more notable team than the Junior Sharks. It only has selected notable players. Whybeetoo's reasoning above seems to be treating Wikipedia as a fan site. Moritoriko (talk) 05:34, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. I see consensus here that the self-authored book is not sufficient to meet our notability standards. Owen× 11:50, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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No evidence he meets WP:PROF, none of his academic works turn up in scholar, and no indication he meets any other notability criteria Psychastes (talk) 21:53, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 05:10, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I created this page in March 2025 when I was still quite new, but I literally copied and pasted the entire list from List of Canadian plants by family C § Cyperaceae, without any citations. Afterward, I added a few random sources about sedges in Canada, but it's still not that great. Furthermore, this probably isn't even notable enough to be a separate list; the only other list of Carex species is List of Carex species, which lists all the species, not just species from a single country. There are no articles on List of Carex species of the United States or any other country. I got the idea to create this page because the "Ca" entry at "List of Canadian plants by genus C" had a red link to this page. A better solution would be to delete this page and paste the list at "List of Canadian plants by genus C#Carex". 🌳 Balsam Cottonwood (talk) 02:53, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

nom and the observations made above. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 06:55, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 05:10, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Restored PROD. Rationale for PROD: Non notable filmmaker/academic. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Lots of IMDB, primary sources and listings but nothing with any real independent coverage about him. Awards are not major. UtherSRG (talk) 02:45, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Previous/concurrent discussion at WP:ANI#My Wikipedia page of over 15 years is Suddenly Gone and I have no clue as to why despite checking deletion logs (permalink). —Cryptic 02:56, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as a foregone conclusion. User:UtherSRG obviously came across this via the dumb discussion at ANI where a bunch of veteran editors, in an apparent effort to prepare this article's creator User:Thehaaps for what will be reams of blatant WP:CIVIL policy violations from unconscionably cruel assholes here, swarmed him with new and unique and verbose ways of telling him he's a fucking idiot. Any decent person can see that all of these messages should have been directed at him somewhat privately, either on his talk page or via email, but maybe pantsing the guy on a high-traffic noticeboard was the kind thing to do since he'll be better prepared to enter the AFD arena to do battle with this community's meanest, most untouchable oldsters. I wonder why, in light of another editor at that ANI thread promising to hold off on nominating this article for deletion until it could be worked on, UtherSRG had to speed up the process of executing this good-faith, badly overmatched person but in the end, this is guaranteed to get deleted so whatever. City of Silver 03:16, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Actually, I'd found the RFU request before seeing the ANI discussion, so maybe you should check your attitude and assumptions and keep the discussion here purely about the article in question. - UtherSRG (talk) 03:23, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Had you first read what I said before you responded to it, you'd know I said literally nothing, not one word, that isn't about the article in question. City of Silver 06:26, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Neutral as admin who restored the PROD in response to the ANI Cryptic linked. I did not see the Refund request before UtherSRG processed it but we ended up in the same place. I did not do an exhaustive BEFORE and likely won't have time before this discussion concludes, it was simply a contested PROD. To anyone who didn't wander here from any of the aforementioned discussions, the subject is aware of this link and may participate. They are relatively inexperienced and here in good faith. Please pardon any errors. Star Mississippi 03:39, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    In full disclosure, I notified Explicit as the admin who originally responded to the PROD as I neglected to on restoration. Star Mississippi 03:55, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you Star Mississippi- I'm completely green in this arena and I appreciate some of the more tolerant comments from you and City of Silver and SnowRise. I certainly didn't mean to set of a firestorm- just was trying to find out why a wiki page that had been around for over a decade seemingly vanished overnight. It's been made pretty clear to me that the page is going to be removed, but I certainly am grateful to encounter some nice folks in here like you who didn't make me feel like a total pos. Anyway- Cheers. Thehaaps (talk) 15:43, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Honestly, don't worry about it: we were all new at one point or another. With that, you're taking everything with an unusual degree of grace -- a number of people in your boots throw epic kicking and screaming fits -- and we appreciate your courtesy. Ravenswing 16:23, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    +1 Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:30, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: I'm here from the ANI thread myself. @EEng did a thorough review of the sources previously in the article (turning up nothing notable), but my own BEFORE holds much the same: that the indie films and shorts with which the subject's been involved fall well short of notability, that such awards as are claimed are minor, and that the subject doesn't meet any of the pertinent notability standards. Ravenswing 04:50, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Draftify This is often what is done when restoring deleted PRODs so let me put in a pitch for that here. Liz Read! Talk! 06:31, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: I wandered here from WP:ANI. Searches I've conducted turn up nothing that shows that this passes either WP:GNG or WP:DIRECTOR. TarnishedPathtalk 08:08, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Ps, I don't think draftify is appropriate because the subject still wouldn't be notable. Draftify is generally appropriate where either an article is newish or where notability can be shown with a bit of work. TarnishedPathtalk 08:10, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment draftification is a dubious outcome because (1) it's usually used for newly-minted articles that were pushed into main-space prematurely but could become acceptable with a bit of extra work, while this article has existed for a long time, and (2) draftification can easily become deletion-by-waiting-6-months (i.e. Thehaaps, if you don't get the article about you up to Wikipedia's notability standards within 6 months in draft-space, or at least remember to make periodic edits to it, it will be automatically deleted). I would recommend that Thehaaps keep a personal copy, so that if this article is deleted, and they subsequently find better sourcing and wish to resubmit, they can recreate the improved article through AfC (Articles for creation). This is a safe and relatively private way to check notability and wording, and avoid the unpleasantness of being dragged through the more negative public noticeboards. Elemimele (talk) 12:22, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per discussion at ANI. Subject is not notable. I'd recommend that Thehaaps copies the content of this article and if he needs it for his work, uses it somewhere other than Wikipedia. Admittedly the article is well written, but it still doesn't meet the guidelines for notability. » Gommeh (he/him) 14:05, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete no SIGCOV found in any searches, just passing mentions. If it's exposure you seek for your work, then I suggest you direct people to your IMDb page, as it's a top search result and probably gets more page views than this article ever did. Isaidnoway (talk) 14:46, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Not sufficiently notable for an encyclopedia.☣︎ Hiobazard ☣︎ 19:04, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Pretty clear notability fail and very clearly was an attempt at self-promotion. I oppose draftifying. Best, GPL93 (talk) 14:59, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per City of Silver. Fortuna, imperatrix 13:13, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. plicit 05:09, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Suhr Chae-yeon (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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"Focusing on her facial expressions"? Wow, that's amazing! Seriously... fails WP:NSKATE, fails WP:GNG, fails everything. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:13, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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